I keep reading people recommending the use of back button focus. What are the advantages of this? I normally use centre point focus using the shutter button and recompose if needed before pressing the shutter all the way.
Vendee Senior Member 466 posts Likes: 436 Joined May 2007 More info | Apr 04, 2012 12:47 | #1 I keep reading people recommending the use of back button focus. What are the advantages of this? I normally use centre point focus using the shutter button and recompose if needed before pressing the shutter all the way. | EOS 6D| EOS 3 |EF 24-105mm f/4L|EF 70-200mm f/4L IS |EF 40mm f/2.8 STM | EF 50 f/1.8 II | Sigma 35mm f/1.4 Art | Pentax MX |Pentax ME Super|Pentax K1000|Kiev 4A|Yashica Electra 35 GTN|Yashica 24|Ricoh GR III
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yourdoinitwrong Goldmember 2,394 posts Joined Apr 2009 Location: Indiana More info | Apr 04, 2012 12:55 | #2 Vendee wrote in post #14209035 I keep reading people recommending the use of back button focus. What are the advantages of this? I normally use centre point focus using the shutter button and recompose if needed before pressing the shutter all the way. I use it for sports with AI Servo. That way I can continuosly track my subject and then take the shot(s) when needed. It is much easier to do that than trying to keep the shutter half-pressed when I'm moving the camera around. It took a little while to get used to but it is the only way I shoot now. There is also the added benefit of people not wanting to use my camera either because it won't focus for them with the shutter button! 5D4 w/BG-E20, 24-105 f/4L, 70-200 f/2.8L IS II, 35 f/1.4L, 85 f/1.8, 100 f/2.8L IS Macro, Sigma 50 f/1.4
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Apr 04, 2012 12:56 | #3 When shooting action sports, it allows you to track focus of a moving subject prior to locking exposure with the shutter half press. This has two big advantages. In some indoor sports venues, lighting is not even so you don't want to meter until you actually take the shot. Second, tracking AF prior to taking the shot gives the camera time to calculate a focus solution and will get you an almost instant shutter release if you have your custom functions set to give priority to achieving focus versus release shutter. This can mitigate a delay of sometimes half a second or so until the shutter releases if AF is on the shutter button because the camera only begins calculating the AF point when you half press, or fully press the shutter. For shooting indoor sports like swimming, gymnastics, basketball, roller derby, etc, back button focus will get your keeper rate up higher than using shutter button AF. It really comes into it's own on circular or oval track sports where the closing velocity vector of a subject coming at you is constantly changing while the subject is in the curved section of the track. Giving the camera time to calculate an AF solution with back button focus in that situation will always get you a much quicker shutter release than pressing the shutter button to take a shot. Add in spotty overhead lighting where you want exposure metered at the moment of shutter press and not before, and you have the perfect back button AF environment. As stated above, Servo AF is a given for it to make sense. Gear List
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LeopoldStotch Member 133 posts Likes: 3 Joined Jul 2011 Location: Toronto More info | Apr 04, 2012 12:56 | #4 Vendee wrote in post #14209035 I normally use centre point focus using the shutter button and recompose if needed before pressing the shutter all the way. That works fine in one-shot AF, but if you use Ai servo the camera will continue to focus while the shutter button's halfway down - making recomposition a PITA. With the two functions on separate buttons, it becomes much easier with continuous AF. That's why sports shooters often use the back button. 50D | 5D | Tokina 12-24 f/4 | 24-85 f/3.5-4.5 | 24-105 f/4L | 50 f/1.8 | 70-200 f/4L | Metz 50 AF-1
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Apr 04, 2012 13:00 | #5 I like back button focusing because I set my shutter half-press to lock in an exposure meter, and can then recompose, focus with back-button, and depress the shutter to take a pic. I typically keep my camera on spot metering. Phillip - phillipwardphotography.com
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LeeRatters Cream of the Crop More info | Apr 04, 2012 13:08 | #6 For me, because focusing & metering/exp lock are two seperate functions so have them on two seperate buttons
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sonnyc Cream of the Crop 5,175 posts Likes: 36 Joined Jun 2005 Location: san jose More info | Apr 04, 2012 13:22 | #7 |
MikeK Goldmember 1,637 posts Joined Apr 2001 Location: San Francisco area More info | Apr 04, 2012 13:22 | #8 Vendee wrote in post #14209035 I keep reading people recommending the use of back button focus. What are the advantages of this? I normally use centre point focus using the shutter button and recompose if needed before pressing the shutter all the way. https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46965 Canon 6D, 1DmkII, IR modified 5DII with lots of Canon L, TSE and Zeiss ZE lenses
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DanMarchant Do people actually believe in the Title Fairy? 5,635 posts Gallery: 19 photos Likes: 2058 Joined Oct 2011 Location: Where I'm from is unimportant, it's where I'm going that counts. More info | Apr 04, 2012 13:31 | #9 Vendee wrote in post #14209035 I keep reading people recommending the use of back button focus. What are the advantages of this? I normally use centre point focus using the shutter button and recompose if needed before pressing the shutter all the way. Another vote for BBF - but then I like to shoot team sports and it is great for that, as explained above. Dan Marchant
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Apr 04, 2012 13:32 | #10 Dan Marchant wrote in post #14209251 On a related note you might want to look at customising the mini-joystick to move/select AF points. That can save on having to recompose as you frame the shot and use one of the outer AF points to focus. I've got this setup as well. pretty quick to change your active AF points, or just press the joystick and select all. Phillip - phillipwardphotography.com
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Thanks for the info guys | EOS 6D| EOS 3 |EF 24-105mm f/4L|EF 70-200mm f/4L IS |EF 40mm f/2.8 STM | EF 50 f/1.8 II | Sigma 35mm f/1.4 Art | Pentax MX |Pentax ME Super|Pentax K1000|Kiev 4A|Yashica Electra 35 GTN|Yashica 24|Ricoh GR III
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Apr 04, 2012 17:01 | #12 I like it because that's where my thumb sits and it makes it handy.
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jase1125 Goldmember More info | Apr 04, 2012 17:51 | #13 What all those other people said Jason
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sempaidavid Senior Member 890 posts Joined Nov 2006 Location: Fresno CA More info | Apr 04, 2012 18:03 | #14 bsmotril wrote in post #14209088 When shooting action sports, it allows you to track focus of a moving subject prior to locking exposure with the shutter half press. This has two big advantages. In some indoor sports venues, lighting is not even so you don't want to meter until you actually take the shot. Second, tracking AF prior to taking the shot gives the camera time to calculate a focus solution and will get you an almost instant shutter release if you have your custom functions set to give priority to achieving focus versus release shutter. This can mitigate a delay of sometimes half a second or so until the shutter releases if AF is on the shutter button because the camera only begins calculating the AF point when you half press, or fully press the shutter. For shooting indoor sports like swimming, gymnastics, basketball, roller derby, etc, back button focus will get your keeper rate up higher than using shutter button AF. It really comes into it's own on circular or oval track sports where the closing velocity vector of a subject coming at you is constantly changing while the subject is in the curved section of the track. Giving the camera time to calculate an AF solution with back button focus in that situation will always get you a much quicker shutter release than pressing the shutter button to take a shot. Add in spotty overhead lighting where you want exposure metered at the moment of shutter press and not before, and you have the perfect back button AF environment. As stated above, Servo AF is a given for it to make sense. This is one of the best explanations I have ever read of the advantages of back button focus. Thanks for taking the time to write this. 5D mkIII, 1D mkIV, Tokina 16-28 f/2.8, EF 24-70L, EF 70-200 f/2.8L II IS, EF 100-400L, EF 85 f/1.8, Sigma 50 f/1.4, EF 24-105
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kf095 Out buying Wheaties More info | Apr 04, 2012 18:43 | #15 Why? Because it works much more better. If you are advanced photographer M-E and ME blog
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