Need help with Lightroom4 & CS5

I'm having a bit of trouble with my images when switching between Lightroom and Photoshop. After developing in Lightroom, i click to Edit in CS5 for the finishing touches, but when the shot opens in Photoshop the image is much darker, or the white balance isn't the same; even the histogram doesn't match up!?!?! I'm guessing it's a colorspace issue, but can't figure out how to fix it, so any advice would definitely be appreciated..

Thanks
Scott

Well, I don't have LR4, so I'm not sure what options might have changed. When you open the Edit in Photoshop dialog, if you are processing a Raw file your options are limited, but the default should be to open a "copy" with Lightroom adjustments applied -- is this what you're seeing?

It is true that Photoshop and Lightroom do have different ways of processing monitor profiles and such. I don't know all the details, but I've seen it and heard about it. The first step in dealing with this is to calibrate your monitor, although you can mess around with changing your monitor profile to, say, sRGB and see if that improves things, but that's not as good as monitor calibration.

One thing you can do as a "quick check" is to do a Grayscale conversion in LR and then see if that shows up in PS.

I should say that LR4 is still in the process of working out bugs. So, if the grascale conversion doesn't translate over then you're obviously not looking at a monitor profile/color space thing.

In that case, I'd go to the Adobe Lightroom Users Forum and post there and see if there is an identified issue or any other clue:

http://forums.adobe.co​m/community/lightroom

Check your color management settings for CS5 to see what the working color space is set to (to match LR4, I think it should be Prophoto RGB). I have CS5 set up to notify me if there's a color space mismatch so I can choose what I want to do; yours may not be set up to give you that notification and maybe is converting automatically without telling you. I don't know, however, if that would account for the issue you're experiencing.

My guess is the same as stsva's. You need to do one of two things: keep the same color space, or convert to a different one. I would keep it in ProPhoto. There is a setting in CS5 preferences about what it should do if profiles don't match. I have it set to ask me.

Prophoto is fine as long as you understand what you are working with, you have Photoshop set up to deal with things properly, and also you ensure that converting to sRGB is done as a fixed part of your routine when you are outputting a photo for the "outside world".

It is very possible that the Photoshop Color Settings are in fact not set up to deal with a ProPhoto file and that in fact they are "bungling" the color space handling. These things need to be gone over! You may see problems in how Photoshop is displaying the image, and you could really see problems if you put stuff out on the Web that are not properly managed!

An alternative is a "safe" sRGB-only route: in the Lightroom Export dialog and the Edit in Photoshop dialog you can set a color space that is "sticky". So, you could set the settings to the sRGB color space. You still want to get the Photoshop color settings "right" -- you can set your "working" color space to sRGB, and also you can tell Photoshop to alert you if you are opening a file with either a missing color space or one that is not in the PS color space.

There are two "stickies" here that, if you haven't read them, you could benefit from:

Color management:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=707058

Color "problems":

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=296149

beano wrote in post #14220813
After developing in Lightroom, i click to Edit in CS5 for the finishing touches,

You're using "Photo > Edit in… > PS"?
Any popup dialogs here? What version ACR are you using?

beano wrote in post #14220813
but when the shot opens in Photoshop the image is much darker, or the white balance isn't the same;

Which is it? Darker or different "white balance"?
A screenshot might help.

beano wrote in post #14220813
even the histogram doesn't match up!?!?! I'm guessing it's a colorspace issue, but can't figure out how to fix it, so any advice would definitely be appreciated..

Do you get any warning messages?

How are your PS Color settings?

http://www.getcolorman​aged.com …nagement/pscolo​rsettings/

tonylong wrote in post #14221284
When you open the Edit in Photoshop dialog, if you are processing a Raw file your options are limited, but the default should be to open a "copy" with Lightroom adjustments applied -- is this what you're seeing?

I remember that message coming up once or twice, but it hasn't been coming up lately, so i imagine i asked it not to show me the message again.. Maybe!?!

René Damkot wrote in post #14224762
You're using "Photo > Edit in… > PS"?
Any popup dialogs here? What version ACR are you using?

No. I'm right-clicking the image in Lightroom, and clicking on edit in photoshop.

René Damkot wrote in post #14224762
Which is it? Darker or different "white balance"?

Sometimes one, sometimes the other, sometimes both!?! It depends on the image; it isn't random (it doesn't vary with a single image).

René Damkot wrote in post #14224762
Do you get any warning messages?

No, but that's probably because i've already told it in the past not to hassle me with warnings lol! Don't worry, i'm going to go and look for these warnings and turn them back on.

René Damkot wrote in post #14224762
How are your PS Color settings?

Always set to sRGB. I thought i'd set LR up to output sRGB too, so i'll be checking that next.. Maybe it's the RAW files; the files i'm processing at the moment are quite old and taken with my 1st DSLR (350D), and i'm not sure what colorspace that was set to. Would that make a difference?

Thanks for all the help

This is the only warning to come up with this file (all warnings reset). I've clicked on update in Photoshop and there are no updates. I've also had a quick look on the adobe website, but can't find any info on ACR 7!?! The newest i can find is ACR 6.7, which i have.

HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Redirected to error image by FLICKR

I figured it out yay!

When you click edit in photoshop, it scraps all the editing from Lightroom, unless you click on "Render using lightroom" on the pop-up warning. I was clicking "open anyway". Makes perfect sense really haha!

beano wrote in post #14226451
I figured it out yay!

When you click edit in photoshop, it scraps all the editing from Lightroom, unless you click on "Render using lightroom" on the pop-up warning. I was clicking "open anyway". Makes perfect sense really haha!

Hmm. I don't get the warning when I open PS. I do if I open a plugin but not PS. I wonder what I have done?

mrcoons wrote in post #14226495
Hmm. I don't get the warning when I open PS. I do if I open a plugin but not PS. I wonder what I have done?

Edit/Preferences/Reset All Warning Dialogs

The other night I was on the phone with Adobe LR support for hours. For the Mac version of LR4...it is screwed. On my machine you can not get LR 4 to invoke Elements 10 as the pixel editor. Elements 10 could be opened by itself without problem. Also my Nik plugins would not install and recognize LR4 as the host...but they did Elements 10.

So I ended up back with LR 3.6 where LR invokes Elements 1o just fine and Nik plugins are just fine as well. The Adobe engineer said there were lots of high priority escalations to the LR design team. This product is not ready for prime time....at least on the Mac 10.7.3.

I know, it will all be fixed in 10.8 Mountain Lion.

beano wrote in post #14226636
Edit/Preferences/Reset All Warning Dialogs

I thought this would work but it doesn't. (I did restart LR.) I wonder if this has anything to do with my having PS6 Beta installed? When I right click on an image it says 'Edit in PS6' not PS5 and I see no way to point it back to PS5.

Any suggestions?

mrcoons wrote in post #14229159
I thought this would work but it doesn't. (I did restart LR.) I wonder if this has anything to do with my having PS6 Beta installed? When I right click on an image it says 'Edit in PS6' not PS5 and I see no way to point it back to PS5.

Any suggestions?

Never mind, I rebooted and the prompt appears now. Must have had something still running in the background when I shut down LR. Thanks.

mrcoons wrote in post #14230334
Never mind, I rebooted and the prompt appears now. Must have had something still running in the background when I shut down LR. Thanks.

Glad you got it sorted.