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Apr 09, 2012 13:17 |  #1

I attended a wedding as a family guest a few weeks back. Having done a number of weddings myself, I was curious to watch the photographer in action.

First thing I noticed, two camera bodies, both Canon 5DMKII's! I only had my 7D with me but was only planning on shooting family shots anyway.

So I got up to shoot the bride and groom and noticed the lenses on the two 5DMKII's ... a 16-35 and a 100-400 ... HUH?? :confused:

When he shot with the 16-35, he was in their faces much of the time and when he shot with the 100-400 he was across the hall! Worst part was, he set up a light stand w/flash and white umbrella and shot most of the reception with the 100-400 from the other side of the dance floor. Problem with that, NOBODY could see the couple for the umbrella!

Half the people missed the cutting of the cake because of the umbrella. I got a shot (by stepping between the photog and the couple) and even my shot has mostly umbrella in it! people were complaining!

The same thing happened throughout the reception ... first kiss, toast, first dance, father and bride dance ....

Does that set up seem kinda strange? I've mentioned it to a few people I know (photogs) and their reply was the same as mine ... HUH?? ... followed by a hearty chuckle!

Haven't see any photos yet but just the fact that half the guests missed so many things as well as their own photos.

I don't think I would consider these two lenses in combo nor even the 100-400 at ALL for an indoor wedding reception.


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Apr 09, 2012 13:52 |  #2

Yeah, we wouldn't use that setup. Of course, our ideal is something like a 35, a 50, an 85, and a 135 on full frame.


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Apr 09, 2012 14:01 |  #3

Yeah, that wouldn't be my typical lens makeup for a reception and I never use an umbrella at receptions, but I am not going to second guess another photographer.

There's always going to be some guests complaining about something at a wedding so you can't really worry about that. However, yeah, the umbrella would probably get on most people's nerves, rightfully so.




  
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Apr 09, 2012 14:49 |  #4

I can't second guess another photographer. I have heard of photographers using an umbrella because the cake is in a dark hole.

I have seen videographer's set up umbrellas and leave them on just about the whole night.

The action below seems rude to me. You stepped between the photographer and the couple?? I would be upset if a guest did this to me.
I got a shot (by stepping between the photog and the couple)


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Apr 09, 2012 14:51 |  #5

Are you saying that the guests missed photo opportunities?

Haven't see any photos yet but just the fact that half the guests missed so many things as well as their own photos.


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Apr 09, 2012 16:04 |  #6

Sounds like an amateur trying to play professional.


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Apr 09, 2012 16:35 |  #7

Was it at least a parabolic umbrella? I could turned a blind eye if a PLM was used. :)




  
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Apr 09, 2012 17:52 |  #8

scorpio_e wrote in post #14236536 (external link)
The action below seems rude to me. You stepped between the photographer and the couple?? I would be upset if a guest did this to me.
I got a shot (by stepping between the photog and the couple)

Maybe I should have explained it better ...

I looked back, he was talking to somebody with his camera over his shoulder. I then stepped over to the side (and behind the umbrella) and took a quick shot. I didn't get in his way but had no other way of getting a shot because of the umbrella and stand!

Also let me add, watching from my table, I'm guessing he missed a lot of shots because he was behind the crownd and many people got up to take photos, as well as talk to the couple with their backs to him, during the event while he stood begind and took shots from the back of the hall.


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Apr 09, 2012 17:58 |  #9

It all depends I suppose when the couple get the photos if they are happy or not.


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Apr 09, 2012 18:09 |  #10

scorpio_e wrote in post #14236550 (external link)
Are you saying that the guests missed photo opportunities?

Haven't see any photos yet but just the fact that half the guests missed so many things as well as their own photos.

I'm saying the guests missed much (most) of the reception where the bride and groom do what they do at weddings ... cut the cake, feed it to each other, give each other a kiss, toast, dance, greet guests and so on. Guessing the umbrella was about 3 feet across and he placed it right next to the couple and blocked everyones view, or most everyones view.

Sorry, as I mentioned, I have done weddings and I also have respect for the guests that want to be a part of the reception, be that watching the event and/or wishing the couple well and taking photos ... did not happen with the umbrella in the way.


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Apr 09, 2012 19:24 |  #11

Let's find this MF'er and burn him at the stake.




  
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Apr 09, 2012 19:38 as a reply to  @ nicksan's post |  #12

He had the wedding all for himself. I hope he got nice shots from that. He overdone David Ziser training DVD.

If I ever pull an umbrella, the only time I will do that will be when there is an allocated time for creatives (preparation and after ceremony-before reception time frames), and if I really need to have that type of lighting.

Does anybody here use umbrella during weddings, I mean not as excessively as described here?


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Apr 09, 2012 19:46 |  #13

johneo wrote in post #14236127 (external link)
I attended a wedding as a family guest a few weeks back. Having done a number of weddings myself, I was curious to watch the photographer in action.

First thing I noticed, two camera bodies, both Canon 5DMKII's! I only had my 7D with me but was only planning on shooting family shots anyway.

So I got up to shoot the bride and groom and noticed the lenses on the two 5DMKII's ... a 16-35 and a 100-400 ... HUH?? :confused:

When he shot with the 16-35, he was in their faces much of the time and when he shot with the 100-400 he was across the hall! Worst part was, he set up a light stand w/flash and white umbrella and shot most of the reception with the 100-400 from the other side of the dance floor. Problem with that, NOBODY could see the couple for the umbrella!

Half the people missed the cutting of the cake because of the umbrella. I got a shot (by stepping between the photog and the couple) and even my shot has mostly umbrella in it! people were complaining!

The same thing happened throughout the reception ... first kiss, toast, first dance, father and bride dance ....

Does that set up seem kinda strange? I've mentioned it to a few people I know (photogs) and their reply was the same as mine ... HUH?? ... followed by a hearty chuckle!

Haven't see any photos yet but just the fact that half the guests missed so many things as well as their own photos.

I don't think I would consider these two lenses in combo nor even the 100-400 at ALL for an indoor wedding reception.

Don't insult, don't chide, don't be nasty until you can see the photos and guarantee 100% for sure that you could and would do a BETTER job.


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Apr 09, 2012 20:23 |  #14

jclaveria wrote in post #14238181 (external link)
He had the wedding all for himself. I hope he got nice shots from that. He overdone David Ziser training DVD.

If I ever pull an umbrella, the only time I will do that will be when there is an allocated time for creatives (preparation and after ceremony-before reception time frames), and if I really need to have that type of lighting.

Does anybody here use umbrella during weddings, I mean not as excessively as described here?

I don't but I saw one photographer who used it almost the entire wedding. He knew what he was doing. He was a seasoned pro.


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Apr 09, 2012 21:03 |  #15

form wrote in post #14238216 (external link)
Don't insult, don't chide, don't be nasty until you can see the photos and guarantee 100% for sure that you could and would do a BETTER job.

I don't see his post insulting or nasty in anyway... nor claimed he can do better. Where are those in his statement??? He brought up a question for enlightenment and expressed his thoughts on what lens he prefers to use on such occasion. Now how is that insulting and claiming to do better?.:rolleyes: SMH.


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