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Upgrading my tamron or stay?

 
chongkiat
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Apr 11, 2012 23:58 |  #1

The gear i have now is

canon 550D
50mm f1.8 II
tamron 17-50mm f2.8 non-VC
canon 580exII

What in my heart
17-55mm f2.8 (that is dream lens , but i'm sure wont spend so much on my hobby, so forgot about this lens)

17-40mm F4 L USM
15-85mm F3.5~5.6 IS USM

reason i wan to upgrade is because i wan something more accurate / faster focus which Canon USM can fill my need , as u guys know , canon 550D only have 1 Center Cross-Type AF , i often shoot with outer focus point (focus recompose is slow when u shooting moving object , and u wan to put the subject into thirds )


so in my brain, i was thinking, should i upgrade my tamron 17-50mm f2.8 to canon 15-85mm f3.5~5.6 IS USM ? I don't like to change my lens often , so prime not really suitable for me

Really need ur guys opinion :confused::confused::confused:


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Apr 12, 2012 00:08 |  #2

chongkiat wrote in post #14251568 (external link)
reason i wan to upgrade is because i wan something more accurate / faster focus which Canon USM can fill my need , as u guys know , canon 550D only have 1 Center Cross-Type AF , i often shoot with outer focus point (focus recompose is slow when u shooting moving object , and u wan to put the subject into thirds )

If you say you want more accurate focus on the outer points, wouldn't it make more sense to upgrade to a body that has cross-type AF on them?


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Apr 12, 2012 00:31 |  #3

i only use it as hobby , and i won't going from 550D to 60D (feel not really worth upgrade) , can forgot about 7D , because i not really like heavy body.

Not to say 550D bad , but maybe is the tamron 17-50mm not really good in low light (keep hunting with outer focus point)

so any 550D user with 15-85mm can give comment about the Focus speed / accurate ?


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Apr 12, 2012 00:43 |  #4

why not adding 70-200 f4 into your lineup? or tamron 70-300 VC?

17-50 is a good lens, it's a f2.8 which you can have nice bokeh.

if the AF is your concern, your tamron lens doesn't have USM feature as the canon have. AF on canon lenses is different from your tamron lens.


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Apr 12, 2012 00:57 |  #5

bro , my signature state that my wishlist will be 70-200mm F4 IS , so i will purchase if i got the money.

Now i wan to settle down walk-around lens , tamron is very good with good bokeh , but the focus speed is abit worse , but i not sure 15-85mm is an upgrade or downgrade =.="


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Apr 12, 2012 01:20 |  #6

You don't need to buy new lens. What you've got are far enough for your hobby.




  
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Apr 12, 2012 01:44 |  #7

with 15-85 you gain IS, fast AF, longer focal length and solid construction. But, you lose the bokeh

with 17-55 you have a nice bokeh. But, you have a short FL, not so good AF and not so solid construction.

if there's only 18-250 f2.8 all the way, I would recommend that lens for a walk around.


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Apr 12, 2012 01:47 |  #8

gacon1 wrote in post #14251776 (external link)
You don't need to buy new lens. What you've got are far enough for your hobby.

U mean it's fine using the tamron 17-50mm ? for day light won't have problem , only lowlight , actually i just upgrade from 18-55mm kit lens , I will give my tamron more time to try ok hehe :D:D


Thank guys for ur opinion , appreciate much :):)


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Apr 12, 2012 01:49 |  #9

pepponeskie wrote in post #14251831 (external link)
with 15-85 you gain IS, fast AF, longer focal length and solid construction. But, you lose the bokeh

with 17-55 you have a nice bokeh. But, you have a short FL, not so good AF and not so solid construction.

if there's only 18-250 f2.8 all the way, I would recommend that lens for a walk around.


that true bro , but some ppl told me , shooting with tamron 17-50mm f2.8 wide open won't sharp , u need to stop to F4 only get sharp image (that is what i experience too , f4 is way sharp than f2.8). so in this condition , it got no different with using 15-85mm , so can't expect nice bokeh from tamron too , that make me dilemma , if wan bokeh , i stil got 50mm f1.8 right?


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Apr 12, 2012 02:25 |  #10

if you really want to go for Canon 15-85mm that's a good decision. However, you can still create nice bokeh from your photos by post processing. There's a program called alien skin bokeh and Onone focal point for bokeh simulation of your photos.


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Apr 12, 2012 02:34 |  #11

chongkiat wrote in post #14251644 (external link)
Not to say 550D bad , but maybe is the tamron 17-50mm not really good in low light (keep hunting with outer focus point)

That's your body limitation. I have the same Tamron lens, and used to have a 400D before I upgraded to a 60D.

With the 400D (same AF as your 550D), I could only rely on the center point to lock focus. It's always been a hit and miss with the other focus points. Since I upgraded to the 60D, I can use any focus point and the camera/lens will lock perfectly. That was a major improvement.

If your Tamron lens gives you satisfying AF performance with the center focus point, you'd be better off upgrading the body rather than the lens.


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Apr 12, 2012 02:42 |  #12

17-50 is a great lens like others have said here already. As cedm has already said, the 60D is a huge upgrade especially in the focus department and well worth the upgrade. You could always purchase a used 50D for better focusing but the high ISO for low light is superior on the 60D.


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Apr 12, 2012 02:45 |  #13

60D + tamron 17-50mm f2.8 will become a good combo?


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Apr 12, 2012 02:49 |  #14

so u guys suggest me upgrade my current body more than upgrading my lens?? Because i always thought lens > body , with a USM i will get better result even using Outer Focus Point ?


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Apr 12, 2012 04:47 |  #15

chongkiat wrote in post #14251955 (external link)
so u guys suggest me upgrade my current body more than upgrading my lens?? Because i always thought lens > body , with a USM i will get better result even using Outer Focus Point ?

Lens over body is an over simplified statement. There's pros and cons in upgrading bodies, just like with lenses.

The problem I see for you, is that even with a USM lens, you may still have focus issues with the outer focus points. Cross-shaped focus points are must much effective at locking focus. Not just in low light situation, but on any subject with lesser contrast.

As I said, if you're happy with the AF performance of your Tamron when using the center focus point, then the issue is not with the lens, but with the body and its lack of outer cross-shaped focus points.

If you can, borrow a USM lens and give it a go. See if it works better for you. Same if you can get your hands on a 40/50/60D. Try and see.


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