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Apr 13, 2012 14:04 |  #1

Looking for a telephoto that I need to use for one of my classes. I have a 70-200, but it's likely a little short, and most the examples given were shot at longer focal lengths.

I'm thinking of getting a 100-400L for the duration of the class and selling it again after, might also look at 400L 5.6?
We need to shoot sports with it, framed tight and sharp.

Which one would you pick, or should I look at a Sigma 50-500? Any other options? Trying to keep it at a reasonable budget though since I don't really use more zoom than the 70-200..

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Apr 13, 2012 14:12 |  #2

Bilderknipser wrote in post #14260299 (external link)
Looking for a telephoto that I need to use for one of my classes. I have a 70-200, but it's likely a little short, and most the examples given were shot at longer focal lengths.

I'm thinking of getting a 100-400L for the duration of the class and selling it again after, might also look at 400L 5.6?
We need to shoot sports with it, framed tight and sharp.

Which one would you pick, or should I look at a Sigma 50-500? Any other options? Trying to keep it at a reasonable budget though since I don't really use more zoom than the 70-200..

Thanks Carmen

That statement I bolded makes me wonder... have you actually tried it yet?

My 70-200mm is easily my most used sports lens and I shoot a lot of it. I probably use the zoom for about 40-50% of my shots. My second most used is 300mm, sometimes with a 1.4X teleconverter, but most often without it. I probably use it for around 30 or 40% of my shots. After that, the rest are 24-70, 12-24 and some prime lenses in various focal lengths, that I sometimes use.

This is using those lenses on 7D, usually... so crop camera. I rarely use my full frame 5DII for sports.

But, it also depends upon the sport and what sort of access you have...

Indoors for basketball, volleyball and similar net sports an 85mm or 135mm might do, possibly even a 50mm on a crop camera.

Outdoors, for football, soccer and similar large field sports... or for baseball, a longer telephoto might be useful if trying to catch the action all the way from one end of the field to the other, or from the outfield to home base.

All these assume you have pretty close access... sidelines or similar, field level. That's always the best place to shoot from, anyway (shots from "the stands" generally just don't cut it).

Motorsports, cycling and similar, usually not more than 400mm or so is needed, but you usually cannot hope to cover more distant parts of the course and work in a limited area, waiting for the actioin to come to you. Depending upon access and safety, might be able to use a shorter lens.

Surfing, windsurfing and sailing might require really long lenses to get the shot. These are the sorts of sports where you might have to "shoot from the beach".

The Sigma 50-500 OS is versatile, but it's nicknamed the "Bigma" for a reason. The 150-500 OS is considerably more affodable and a bit smaller, but still pretty hefty. The 120-400 OS the most easily handheld for a long day of shooting. All three of these... and the Canon 100-400... are basically "good daylight" or "brighlty lit field" lenses... f4.5 and smaller apertures.

Sigma 120-300/2.8 is a lower/more challenging light lens, along with f2.8 Canon lenses (70-200, 300mm). Of course, they are much more expensive... as well as large and heavy. They work quite well with teleconverters, too.


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Apr 13, 2012 14:15 |  #3

Bilderknipser wrote in post #14260299 (external link)
Looking for a telephoto that I need to use for one of my classes.

You didn't say what sports are you going to shoot though. Shooting an indoor basketball game from court side is very different from shooting an outdoor soccer game from spectator stand. :)


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Apr 13, 2012 14:16 |  #4

Your 200 is an effective 320mm. That would be like you at 125mm max.


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Apr 13, 2012 14:18 |  #5

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You didn't say what sports are you going to shoot though. Shooting an indoor basketball game from court side is very different from shooting an outdoor soccer game from spectator stand. :)

I assumed he was shooting outdoor field sports.

The 300 f/4 would be my recommendation. I'm favoring buying that myself.

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Apr 13, 2012 14:20 as a reply to  @ amfoto1's post |  #6

Not much, I'm not too big on sports :oops:. Maybe I should try it first, but figured since he wants those 'in the face' kind of shots more reach might be better.


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Apr 13, 2012 14:22 |  #7

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You didn't say what sports are you going to shoot though. Shooting an indoor basketball game from court side is very different from shooting an outdoor soccer game from spectator stand. :)

Anything really, I think we have 6 more weeks to complete the assignment. It's up to us to find what/where to shoot. Something not everyone else does is always good. :)


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Apr 13, 2012 14:26 as a reply to  @ facedodge's post |  #8

If your 70-200 is f2.8 and you don't need to shoot at night a very nice options is a 1.4x tc. You can buy a used one for $225 and it along with your 50D makes a 70-200 into a pretty versatile sports lens. You will notice the AF slowing down a bit but I don't think it will be worse than a number of the other lenses you mentioned. This combo works ok for soccer, and well for baseball and tennis for me.


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Apr 13, 2012 14:29 |  #9

I know in most cases, student = No$$

But if you could come across an older version of the 300 2.8 (still an L)...even if you had to make a loan, could easily sell it and not be out any money. You won't find a better lens for sports, my own opinion, of course :-)


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Apr 13, 2012 14:31 as a reply to  @ bpalermini's post |  #10

Thanks everyone so far! We do have access to 7D's for this class, but can only check it out for a limited time - I have no experience with the AF system though. If I can get it figured out quickly enough I will use that, if not, then 50D.


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Apr 13, 2012 14:36 as a reply to  @ Bilderknipser's post |  #11

Your 50D will do just fine. But do try out the 7D if you can.


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Apr 13, 2012 14:37 |  #12

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I know in most cases, student = No$$

But if you could come across an older version of the 300 2.8 (still an L)...even if you had to make a loan, could easily sell it and not be out any money. You won't find a better lens for sports, my own opinion, of course :-)

Thanks, I'd love to have one of those just to play around with it lol.. I know my teacher has one, not sure which version, I think w/ IS.


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Apr 13, 2012 14:38 |  #13

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Your 50D will do just fine. But do try out the 7D if you can.

Thanks, I will give it a shot! I might download the manual, so when I try one I might not be as lost on how to work it :cool:..


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Apr 13, 2012 14:42 as a reply to  @ bpalermini's post |  #14

I use a 50D for my daughter's softball. When she plays outfield I use the 100-400. When she plays infield I use the 70-200 f/4. I know you aren't looking for two lenses. I provide that info only for perspective. I never find myself lacking with either of those lenses in either of those respective situations.




  
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Apr 13, 2012 16:50 |  #15

Bilderknipser wrote in post #14260299 (external link)
Looking for a telephoto that I need to use for one of my classes. I have a 70-200, but it's likely a little short, and most the examples given were shot at longer focal lengths.

I'm thinking of getting a 100-400L for the duration of the class and selling it again after, might also look at 400L 5.6?
We need to shoot sports with it, framed tight and sharp.

Which one would you pick, or should I look at a Sigma 50-500? Any other options? Trying to keep it at a reasonable budget though since I don't really use more zoom than the 70-200..
Thanks Carmen

depends on the sport but like the previous poster said, 70-200 for short infield baseball, the 100-400 for the longer stuff like soccer, football, etc.




  
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