I am beginner .... 5D mark ii or 7D ??

Moodydodo wrote in post #14266729
I am beginner and want to buy a camera I will work in wedding and birthday parties so I facing to get canon 5D mark ii or 7D. Can any one advice me

What's your total budget?

Can't answer this question properly without knowing that.

mesakid wrote in post #14271404
LOL, awesome vid.

To the OP, if you're just beginning and you have the money, there's nothing wrong getting the 5D mark ii or 7D. Just make sure you practice, practice, and practice before you decide to throw yourself as a professional. Good luck.

Thanks. I like to practice.

Hitthespot wrote in post #14271470
It's been my experience that "talent" with the camera comes from a lot of practice, patience, and persistance.

For weddings and people in general the 5D series of cameras is a much better choice than the 7D.

Thanks. And ok I love taking shots and exciting for taking shots with a good camera and learning to be professional photography. I know it isn't easy and I will face some challenges but I can handle it.

kcbrown wrote in post #14272561
What's your total budget?

Can't answer this question properly without knowing that.

Yes I have a budget for 5D Mark II. EF 24-70mm. 580 EX II. And after that I will save some money for other lenses.

Moodydodo wrote in post #14273707
Yes I have a budget for 5D Mark II. EF 24-70mm. 580 EX II. And after that I will save some money for other lenses.

If that is your budget go for it. Try to see if you can fit a Prime lens into the budget. Since you do want to get into weddings, primes are something to look into.

Moodydodo wrote in post #14266729
I am beginner and want to buy a camera I will work in wedding and birthday parties so I facing to get canon 5D mark ii or 7D. Can any one advice me

For weddings you should have a minimum of two camera bodies and a second flash would be recommended as well. If it were me I'd go for a 7D first and get up to speed with that and using the flash. By the time your ready for weddings, maybe with some luck the price of the 5Dmkii will have dropped as a new model comes near. The 7D will offer the advantage of a crop sensor which effectively "lengthens" your lenses focal length which can be a benefit. When I was doing weddings I used a 40D and a 5D (classic). The 5D I used primarily for formals and portraits and the 40D handled most everything else. I figured running up shutter accutations on the "cheaper" body would help the 5D last longer before it needed to be replaced or repaired.

As mentioned somewhere back in this thread the 7D can mount EF-S lenses, but those lenses will not mount to the full frame bodies such as the 5D series. Your choice of lenses somewhat depends on your style of shooting. You can't do wrong with a 24-70L.

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Right now I'm using a Rebel T1i/500D/Kiss X3 and I've had it for almost 2 and a half years. Of course when I first bought it I was very hesitant on whether or not I should of purchased a higher end camera such as one that is FF.

But after using it for so long, I feel no regret buying it in terms of just experiencing and learning how photography works. I will admit when I started out with that Rebel, I had no idea what aperture, shutter speed, iso, and any other terms meant.

Now obviously it didn't match up to what a pro level dslr could so such as the 5D or even 1D series line up but it did teach me one thing, how to appreciate and manage with what equipment I had along with not underestimating its own capabilities rather than what it couldn't do.

Most of my buddies own a FF or just a higher end Rebel series but I will be even more satisfied when I upgrade because I will be working my way up rather than just dumping my wallet in the beginning with just buying a super nice dslr as a beginner. Honestly I feel spoiled now when I use a FF because it's such a huge jump for me from where I'm at.

This is just my words of wisdom but if you want to get the most out of photography, in terms of experience, I would go with a rebel series and gradually move up as you work along.

I have a 40D
what would you recomend as the next step up?

I realize this thread is super old and someone just brought it back from the dead, but I really don't understand all the people going and encouraging someone who has NO IDEA of the fundamentals of photography to go blow $2k+ on a camera body. When you are first starting out it isn't going to matter much whether you have a rebel, "older" body such as a 30D/5Dc (I laughed at the guy who said the 5D has a complicated menu and poor LCD, and will scare off new photographers, my second camera body was a 1Dc, with a tiny LCD that didn't even zoom, killed the battery, and one of the most complicated control schemes on earth, and it didn't scare me away) or a 5D3 or 1DX. It will take a lot of hard work, and time, just to understand and apply the basics of photography. I know personally that if somehow I managed to lose all the pictures I took in the first 2, maybe 3 years of photography, there would be all of maybe 5 shots that I would be sad not to have. The rest were just practice/garbage. By the time you get past that initial period to where you can actual take advantage of what your 5D2 in this case offers over a 40D, your 5D2 will have been replaced by two new models, worth a fraction of what you paid for it, and everyone on this forum will be laughing at how old, pathetic, and worthless it is. If you had paid $400 for a 40D, you would loose a couple hundred bucks, and be really ready to take advantage of a new camera to its fullest extent.

I also laugh at the people who think there is no value in getting an education in photography. I was mostly self taught for my first 4 years of photography, and then took some higher level photography courses in college just for me, and I sure as heck learned a lot. Having real people to shoot with, real in person critiques (not some people on the internet saying "man that is a nice shot"), seeing what other people are doing, understanding art, history, composition, ect from someone with more experience than you, is well worth it. Especially when you think you want to make a living off of your camera (good luck there by the way). That is assuming of course you have a good teacher, but I can't help you there if you don't. Saying "ohh I don't need no high falutin learnin', I know how to read me some wikipedia" is just ignorant. Yes the internet, sites like these, tutorials, ect. have their place, and are an asset to all of us, but to claim there is no value in a classroom environment any more is crazy.

That is all.

Moodydodo wrote in post #14266729
I am beginner and want to buy a camera I will work in wedding and birthday parties so I facing to get canon 5D mark ii or 7D. Can any one advice me

My best advise if to buy a 60d with a 17-55 IS and a 430II flash. Then learn how to use it. Spend as much time as you can taking photo's and read as much as you can about the camera and photography practices.

Enjoy your time with your camera and when you know you think you know everything inside out then look at moving on to the next level and upgrading some kit.

Stay away from Weddings, Its hard to explain how difficult they can be and how much kit you need and experience to do it right.

I have 10k invested, 10 years of photography experience and only this year looking at moving in to events photography (part time). I've already found Weddings to be fast paced and the prep is most important, if its not second nature to you then you shouldn't be there.

Also, you will need two or three of everything. I work with a 5DII and a 7D and know both camera's well. I also have a 60d which is a great little body.

Too many uncle bob's out their with their shiny DSLR and pop up flash doing the Pro Wedding thing, don't become one of them.

Enjoy your photography, don't rush in to something that may ruin things for you and your client.

Hope this helps.

I agree 100%
but I really dont know a lot
great post

just like coaching
become a student of the game

excellent post

burnet44 wrote in post #14740689
I have a 40D
what would you recomend as the next step up?

This is a decent step up

What isn't the 40D doing for you?

its probably more of what Im not doing for my 40D lol
they look soft even if focus is ok
some outta focus

here are some
Im sure my PP is bad too

www.firstdownphotos.ph​otoreflect.com

and scoob is right on
I need to sit down with someone and learn

my biggest problem is
I cant tell if its me or the camera

ok I bit yeah 28k for a camera lol

burnet44 wrote in post #14740808
its probably more of what Im not doing for my 40D lol
they look soft even if focus is ok
some outta focus

here are some
Im sure my PP is bad too

www.firstdownphotos.ph​otoreflect.com

and scoob is right on
I need to sit down with someone and learn

my biggest problem is
I cant tell if its me or the camera

ok I bit yeah 28k for a camera lol

I would have suggested the Hasselblad H4D-50 for the same cost, probably pick up the 25-90 kit lens? £25k