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Apr 15, 2012 15:29 |  #1

I want to focus on and improve my landscape shots. Should I shoot in raw or large jpeg? Just got my Lee filter kit which includes holder, both hard and soft .6 GND and a CPL so I think I am ready to go. I will be focusing mostly with seascapes to start using my new 10-22 and my 17-55. Appreciate your thooughts and comments.


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Apr 15, 2012 22:23 |  #2

Always get the most data you can in your images files That means shot raw files from which you can easily make JPG, TIFF, PSD, or other formats using post processing tools.




  
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Apr 15, 2012 23:52 as a reply to  @ MCAsan's post |  #3

With the gear and lenses you have, if you want to get the most out of your images I would suggest investing in a decent raw converter such as LR and shooting raw.

Personally I can't stand DPP and if it were the only option I'd think twice about shooting raw.


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Apr 15, 2012 23:53 |  #4

Do you sell your photos or print them on large posters?

If they're mostly for the web, I wouldn't deal with the hassle of RAW. JPG are small, fast, and ready to edit/send/etc.


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Apr 16, 2012 11:26 |  #5

I would just shoot in raw simply because there is no good reason anymore not to. The time it takes to process them is negligible and memory is cheap these days. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.


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Apr 16, 2012 11:30 |  #6

ejenner wrote in post #14272747 (external link)
Personally I can't stand DPP and if it were the only option I'd think twice about shooting raw.

Funny, I can't stand how complicated LR makes managing and editing my images. To top it off, LR makes worse looking images than even the built in JPEG engine. Good thing we have options, but I'd recommend people at least start with the free stuff.

As to the OP, it's all up to you if you want to shoot RAW. With the filters, etc, you plan to use, it seems you are going to take great care to maximize quality. IF that is the case, extend it all the way to the end image with a RAW editor that lets you get the best quality.

That said, I have recently switched to using JPEG for most shots and save RAW for the ones that I know will need editing. I hate having to manage multiple versions and formats for day-to-day shots that are just going on flickr or facebook, or nowhere. Sister's engagement shoot was RAW, kids outing at the park, JPEG. That kind of stuff. If I made a special hike and got up at 6am for a sunrise, I'd be shooting RAW.


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Apr 16, 2012 12:11 as a reply to  @ tkbslc's post |  #7

I have about 6000 jpg's that just pi$$ me off every time I need one of them. I wish someone would have hit me over the head and said "Hey idiot! You're going to regret this later." I convert RAW's to jpg all the time but, I will never shoot in jpg again. If you need proof, shoot a scene with some great contrasty clouds in raw+jpg. Try to recover the blown highlites in the jpg. After that doesn't work, try it with the raw image. Look at all the detail you can recover with a little PP on a raw.

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Apr 16, 2012 15:16 |  #8

tkbslc wrote in post #14274799 (external link)
Funny, I can't stand how complicated LR makes managing and editing my images. To top it off, LR makes worse looking images than even the built in JPEG engine.

Well, I don't have LR, but Bibble which is (I think) even more clunky.

But I did get into digital BECAUSE of the ability to PP and am not PP-ing just because I'm shooting digital. If you find the SOOC .jpegs OK, then well, fine. I'm guessing it has much to do with your subject matter. I often find I'm either right on the edge of DR trying to recover highlights or also often with limited DR in the image so the shot comes out very, very flat without PP (IMO they really need an auto-levels and auto-contrast option in SOOC .jpegs - true for compacts too).


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Apr 18, 2012 07:56 as a reply to  @ ejenner's post |  #9

An advantage to being in the Mac world...you can go either for with the Adobe set (PSE, LR, PS5) or you can do Aperture from Apple as your basic raw processor and organizer. To either you can add plugins from Nik, Topaz...etc.

Compared to the cost of camera bodies and good lenses, post processing software (i.e. LR and Aperture) are relatively inexpensive. With PS5 the cost starts to get serious.




  
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Apr 18, 2012 07:57 |  #10
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RAW RAW RAW ONLY!


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Apr 18, 2012 08:17 |  #11

ejenner wrote in post #14272747 (external link)
With the gear and lenses you have, if you want to get the most out of your images I would suggest investing in a decent raw converter such as LR and shooting raw.

Personally I can't stand DPP and if it were the only option I'd think twice about shooting raw.

At least you still have the option of adjusting WB, contrast, saturation and exposure in DPP in the event any or all of those were not what you wanted in camera.


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Apr 18, 2012 08:18 |  #12

letsbewild wrote in post #14274766 (external link)
I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

That's my philosophy too. I'm still learning to PP, but I figure at least I can always go back later once I learn more and use newly learned techniques on old RAW files.




  
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Apr 18, 2012 16:03 |  #13

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At least you still have the option of adjusting WB, contrast, saturation and exposure in DPP in the event any or all of those were not what you wanted in camera.

Yea, I lied. I would still shoot raw if all I had was DPP. I just don't really want to think about actually doing it.


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