Advice needed Major League Soccer + 5D II

400dabuser wrote in post #14300771
Not really, are you one of these posters on here that tend to disagree with me all the time no matter what?

Show me a soccer photo that is taken at 1/250 and doesn't have any blur. I'm disagreeing because unless 1/250 is somehow a longer segment of time where you are versus where I am, there's no way to stop action.

Let me second the person who suggested the 300mm lens.

I recently shot the Sporting KC vs LA Galaxy game and rented a 300mm f/2.8L IS for it. I put the 300 on my 7D and it got a little too tight about the top of the penalty box. I would imagine a 5D would give you more room. Plus most of the action will be taking place farther away from the goal than by it, unless your team is the master at earning corner kicks.

Shutter speed? I would say keep it above 1/1000th. If it's a daytime game, I would suggest using Aperture Priority mode.

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400dabuser wrote:

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Not sure what to say. 250th simply won't cut it once you start cropping and capturing peak action.

Here is a 400 from the corner flag behind the endline shooting across to the near post. This was pretty close to being SOOC.

http://www.jafferino.c​om …129476&k=gRpFB4​r&lb=1&s=A

This one was from midfield, literally on the 50, shooting about 30 yards near the top of the penalty area. This distance is roughly the same as you'd experience shooting from behind the goal to where the majority of the action happens.

http://www.jafferino.c​om …122283&k=z4H5g2​W&lb=1&s=A


This one is from a 70-200 pretty heavily cropped, shooting from the where the edge of the 18 yard box intersects with the endline. I was about 30 yards away.

http://www.jafferino.c​om …152270&k=HFHGCs​7&lb=1&s=A

In short, get a 300 if you can. The action where you will get defenders' faces will be at the top of the 18 or beyond. There might be a few moments where they are doing something facing goal, but those will be extremely far and few between with the exception of setpieces and corners.

JoeyBahr wrote in post #14301474
Let me second the person who suggested the 300mm lens.

I recently shot the Sporting KC vs LA Galaxy game and rented a 300mm f/2.8L IS for it. I put the 300 on my 7D and it got a little too tight about the top of the penalty box. I would imagine a 5D would give you more room. Plus most of the action will be taking place farther away from the goal than by it, unless your team is the master at earning corner kicks.

Shutter speed? I would say keep it above 1/1000th. If it's a daytime game, I would suggest using Aperture Priority mode.

[Ig]http://www.joeybahr.co​m …galaxy_4-7-12_0488[/IMG]

Something of your's is backfocusing.

ajaffe wrote in post #14301800
Not sure what to say. 250th simply won't cut it once you start cropping and capturing peak action.

Here is a 400 from the corner flag behind the endline shooting across to the near post. This was pretty close to being SOOC.

http://www.jafferino.c​om/SanDiegoFlash/12fla​sh3/22452394_W3mwFF#!i​=1795129476&k=gRpFB4r&​lb=1&s=A

This one was from midfield, literally on the 50, shooting about 30 yards near the top of the penalty area. This distance is roughly the same as you'd experience shooting from behind the goal to where the majority of the action happens.

http://www.jafferino.c​om/SanDiegoFlash/12fla​sh3/22452394_W3mwFF#!i​=1795122283&k=z4H5g2W&​lb=1&s=A


This one is from a 70-200 pretty heavily cropped, shooting from the where the edge of the 18 yard box intersects with the endline. I was about 30 yards away.

http://www.jafferino.c​om/WorldFootballChalle​nge/galmad1/18085141_T​CjNLw#!i=1387152270&k=​HFHGCs7&lb=1&s=A

In short, get a 300 if you can. The action where you will get defenders' faces will be at the top of the 18 or beyond. There might be a few moments where they are doing something facing goal, but those will be extremely far and few between with the exception of setpieces and corners.

OK, if you don't want to take it with me, then by all means you don't have to believe me, I don't mind, there is no rules to photography and exposure. I'm fine with that. And also, please don't post my photos

elrey2375 wrote in post #14300983
Show me a soccer photo that is taken at 1/250 and doesn't have any blur. I'm disagreeing because unless 1/250 is somehow a longer segment of time where you are versus where I am, there's no way to stop action.

As posted. You don't have to believe me at all.

400dabuser wrote in post #14302136
OK, if you don't want to take it with me, then by all means you don't have to believe me, I don't mind, there is no rules to photography and exposure. I'm fine with that. And also, please don't post my photos

Actually, there are rules to photography and exposure LOL. I'm not really sure what you're talking about. Aperture and Shutter speed are intricately linked, whether you wish to accept it or not. Please don't make any more comments to me.

elrey2375 wrote in post #14302169
Actually, there are rules to photography and exposure LOL. I'm not really sure what you're talking about. Aperture and Shutter speed are intricately linked, whether you wish to accept it or not. Please don't make any more comments to me.

Oh gosh, I think you're just doing this to disagree with me again, no further conversations are needed

To the OP:

Day/Night is a HUGE factor in shooting. Especially since most MLS stadiums are very poor in lighting and we're largely stuck behind the endline where the lighing is not directed.

1/1000 is where you want to be to get good action shots.

2.4-4 will be fine.

You can live with a 200mm. And depending where you are in field width, the 70mm portion may not be wide enough as players get closer.

You'll get more shots than you seem to anticipate.

400dabuser wrote in post #14300765
Take one to three pages back from here and you will see a sample

I had good light, and yes it was a Canon 50D.....so what, it shouldn't matter because exposure has nothing to do with the body

https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=14300750#po​st14300750

The posted link shows no action shots and cant be compared to action photography. I too would like to see your action shots soccer or otherwise at 1/250- 1/500 SS.

elrey2375 wrote in post #14300983
Show me a soccer photo that is taken at 1/250 and doesn't have any blur. I'm disagreeing because unless 1/250 is somehow a longer segment of time where you are versus where I am, there's no way to stop action.

^^^This^^^

400dabuser wrote in post #14302136
OK, if you don't want to take it with me, then by all means you don't have to believe me, I don't mind, there is no rules to photography and exposure. I'm fine with that. And also, please don't post my photos

I quoted it from your post on this website, in the thread you linked.

I don't disbelieve you, I just want to see photos at 1/250th of true action since that is what you said you had taken before.

Before getting defensive, post some photos!

I have shown you a photo, I won't be posting anymore

For soccer you should shoot a minimum of 1/500. But going up to 1/800 will be enough to stop the motion if you are shooting at night. If it's an MLS Stadium, light should be good for shooting at night. If it's a day match then shoot for the fastest speed you can get.

Sundevil9 wrote in post #14303695
To the OP:

Day/Night is a HUGE factor in shooting. Especially since most MLS stadiums are very poor in lighting and we're largely stuck behind the endline where the lighing is not directed.

1/1000 is where you want to be to get good action shots.

2.4-4 will be fine.

You can live with a 200mm. And depending where you are in field width, the 70mm portion may not be wide enough as players get closer.

You'll get more shots than you seem to anticipate.

Thank you. Very useful information! This is what I need to know.

Personally think 1/1000th sec is overkill, but not to say it is wrong. The only thing with 1/1000th sec, you will have to put up the ISO