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Dec 02, 2005 13:29 |  #1

I may be wrong but I went to manual and tried to set my f to 11 so i could get a water fall but my F stops at 8 is this accurate or did i do something worng?

Let me explain what I'm trying to do......
I'd lik eto take landscape scense of flowing water and th ebook I read says to set the 'shutter' to 1/15 which i did but th efstop was not mentioned while talking to another person with a non digital camera he said set the fstop to 11 I told him I dont have 11 he said sounds like you'll have to wait for it to get dark :( help!!!




  
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Dec 02, 2005 13:51 |  #2

F8 is the "max" on the G6, but you really don't need (or want) it to be more. What you want to do is use your built-in neutral density filter for flowing water shots. That will give you 3 extra stops.


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Dec 02, 2005 13:59 as a reply to  @ sdommin's post |  #3

THANK YOU!!!!!
Now let me understand this (I'm a newbie & reading plenty of books ;) ) The neautral filter you are refering too I assume is where the vivid, b/w etc are located. So I just select that feature and that is the equivelant of adding the three stops then point and shoot (well use a tripod and shoot). thank you very much. things books don't mention!!!:eek:

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Dec 02, 2005 17:26 |  #4

it's not there... it's on it's own.... go to menu and you'll see..."ND Filter" on / off. turn it to on, then go take your pic with Tv setting.


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Dec 05, 2005 10:53 as a reply to  @ nactos's post |  #5

Thanks found it!! What's the differance between the two??




  
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Dec 05, 2005 11:15 |  #6

A Neutral density filter (real one) is just a dark tinted glass that blocks some of the light from hitting your lens.

As you have less light, your shutter speed will get longer.

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Dec 09, 2005 15:40 as a reply to  @ Andy_T's post |  #7

I might add that shooting at the minimum aperture can be detrimental to your images due to diffraction; I try to use f/5 or so for all my shooting with the G6, unless I need to go wider, rarely stopped down beyond that, though.




  
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Dec 11, 2005 11:13 as a reply to  @ Superbaldguy's post |  #8

Superbaldguy wrote:
...shooting at the minimum aperture can be detrimental to your images due to diffraction..

Could you expand on that if you have a chance?


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Dec 12, 2005 00:51 as a reply to  @ d100763's post |  #9

d100763 wrote:
Could you expand on that if you have a chance?

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Dec 12, 2005 00:53 |  #10

I dont know for sure, but i think the G series of cameras have a built in neutral density filter. use that


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Dec 12, 2005 02:03 as a reply to  @ Superbaldguy's post |  #11

Superbaldguy wrote:
I might add that shooting at the minimum aperture can be detrimental to your images due to diffraction

That's right. Civis' excellent link gives a very good explanation.

This is exactly the reason why the minimum aperture of the G series is f/8 ... not f/22 or something like on a SLR.

Canon (and most other manufacturers) have deliberately limited the minimum aperture to avoid the negative effects of diffraction ... so f/8 should be safe (you won't notice refraction very much - take a look at the examples in the link)

The result of all this is that the picture does not get any sharper between f/5.0 (the 'sweet spot' of the G series according to many opinions) and f/8 ... it actually would get more blurry by stopping down more.

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Dec 12, 2005 14:37 as a reply to  @ Andy_T's post |  #12

The main reason that nothing exists beyond f/8 (as well as on all other compacts) is due to the small sensor size; it just isn't needed as the format gives tremendous inherent DoF, already, since you are taking a small section out of a wide-angle lens fied of view, in terms of the 35mm film format equivalent perspective.

I wish there were apertures smaller than f/8, even if the G6 has a ND filter. When I have used this feature, I am still forced down to f/8 and the images are not as crisp as they could be due to diffraction.

Middle apertures are ideal for just about everything.




  
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