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Thoughts on the 15-85 F3.5-5.6?

 
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Apr 21, 2012 00:12 |  #16

nate42nd wrote in post #14300484 (external link)
I considered the 15-85 before buying my 17-55. I LOVE the constant F/2.8 aperture of the 17-55.

I believe the 15-85 is a good lens but too "slow" for the money. If you want a good lens get a 17-55 or even a 24-105 (which I also own). Both are 300 bucks more but worth it IMO.

All that said....the 15-85 is still a tempting lens IF your style supports it and you're willing to use a variable aperture lens. I like fixed aperture (as do all who have used them)

I would not get a third party lens. They twist the wrong way!

I'm not criticizing the 24-105mm. But at f4 is not all that fast. and on cropped frame sensor it's not terribly wide either.


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Apr 21, 2012 03:13 |  #17

nate42nd wrote in post #14300484 (external link)
I believe the 15-85 is a good lens but too "slow" for the money. If you want a good lens get a 17-55 or even a 24-105 (which I also own). Both are 300 bucks more but worth it IMO.

So the 24-105, which is slower than the 15-85 at the wide end, and faster at the long end, but still slow overall, is worth $1000, but the 15-85 is too slow for $700?

I would not get a third party lens. They twist the wrong way!

Not all of them.


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Apr 21, 2012 08:54 as a reply to  @ Sirrith's post |  #18

I just received my 15-85 and I love it....:D

It is a heavy lens. You can feel (and see) the quality. Focusing is almost instantaneous (as compared to the Tamron and Sigma 17-50 variety) and silent. I have the nifty 50 which has a speed of f1.8 although I never use it because it is impossible to focus at that f-stop since the depth of field is so narrow. If you think you need a fast lens you need to ask yourself if you will have an opportunity to use it. I stop my nifty 50 down quite a bit in order to use it in everyday circumstances.

This snapshot is right out of the camera. No PP.

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Apr 21, 2012 09:45 as a reply to  @ Gawain's post |  #19

Nice pic Gawain.

I am going back and forth on whether to buy the 15-85 or the sigma 17-70 but this thread is beginging to tip the scale toward the 15-85. It just seems to have such nice image quality and i do have a 35mm f2 for low light stuff.

Do you mind if I ask you where you purchased it from? I have seen threads on here that say it should sell for around $700 but the places i see it are either around $800 or are places I have never heard of.




  
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Apr 21, 2012 09:57 |  #20

mwsilver wrote in post #14301774 (external link)
The conventional wisdom is that this lens is too expensive and too slow.

I agree with the conventional wisdom, the 15-85 is too slow,
too expensive, and not as sharp as the Tamron and Sigma 17-50 2.8




  
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Apr 21, 2012 10:22 |  #21

From low-light portraits:

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to travel scenes:

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to macro:

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What lens you gonna call, when one has to do for all? These unedited shots (other than all being resized down to 1500x1500) from a trip to Holland this past week.

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Apr 21, 2012 11:12 |  #22

advaitin wrote in post #14303136 (external link)
From low-light portraits:

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to travel scenes:

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to macro:

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What lens you gonna call, when one has to do for all? These unedited shots (other than all being resized down to 1500x1500) from a trip to Holland this past week.

Cool. But i think you neglected to indicate which lens you used


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Apr 21, 2012 11:46 |  #23

mwsilver wrote in post #14303328 (external link)
Cool. But i think you neglected to indicate which lens you used

And the subject line is "thoughts on the 15-85..." I thought it was unnecessary to say Canon 60D with 15-85mm EFS lens.


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Apr 21, 2012 13:22 |  #24

advaitin wrote in post #14303468 (external link)
And the subject line is "thoughts on the 15-85..." I thought it was unnecessary to say Canon 60D with 15-85mm EFS lens.

Yes, but a number of other lenses with better low light capability were also mentioned. Since your first photo highlighted low light capability one could assume you were talking about a faster lens. Having said that, I agree with you about the 15-85 versatility and quality. I thinks most folks who criticize it probably have never owned or used one. With almost 4 "real" stops of IS vs the 24-105mm tested 2-3 stops, the 15-85 is actually almost as fast as that f4 L lens.


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Apr 21, 2012 13:27 |  #25

ISO 800 @ f4.5 and 1/60 is hardly low light, anyway.


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Apr 21, 2012 13:47 |  #26

When I was young and spry, ASA/ISO 800 was for low light!

How about an ISO 1600 portrait:

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Or a 6400 ISO shot of a central square at night (still, no editing of either image):

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Apr 21, 2012 14:00 |  #27

The down side is the average selling price of the 15-85 seems to have gone up. It used to sell online in the range of $699 to $739 USD. I bought mine at Abe's of Maine in January with a Canon rebate and an Abe's $10 coupon for just $655. Now Abe's, B$H and others are all selling it for $799. That's $150 more than I spent. Not sure what this is about. The price of the 24-105 still varies from around $1075 to $1150.


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Apr 21, 2012 14:13 |  #28

mwsilver wrote in post #14303911 (external link)
Yes, but a number of other lenses with better low light capability were also mentioned. Since your first photo highlighted low light capability one could assume you were talking about a faster lens. Having said that, I agree with you about the 15-85 versatility and quality. I thinks most folks who criticize it probably have never owned or used one. With almost 4 "real" stops of IS vs the 24-105mm tested 2-3 stops, the 15-85 is actually almost as fast as that f4 L lens.

When I use a full frame camera, I often use the 24-105mm to cover the same usage. I also have the 17-55 EFS f2.8, but think the 15-85 works better for me the majority of times.

I'd be remiss if I didn't add that I also took a few shots with the 70-300 DO--the birds, one edited, at 300mm and the landscape, edited, at 70mm.

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No need to point out that it was a gray day in the Netherlands.
One last portrait, This with the 15-85 at 70mm and ISO 5000, 1/100s @ f5.6. Hope that's high enough to satisfy. Some slight cropping, no other editing.

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Apr 21, 2012 14:19 |  #29


Man do I like this picture.


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Apr 21, 2012 14:33 |  #30

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Man do I like this picture.

Thanks. This is how I was going about, shooting (although a different day).

Photo by Ron Fust.

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