New Canon mirrorless interchangeble-lens compact camera

If they actually make it look anything like the concepts (unlikely?), has a good sensor, and can use legacy glass, I'll buy it.

All speculation. One of those articles is from 2010.... really?

Don't hold your breath.

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Please, please, please, please read more of the thread before saying the links are old-as-the-hills.
I know that.
But here, in Japan, words are flashing around that "it" is finally coming!!!!

Sirrith wrote in post #14336317
If they actually make it look anything like the concepts (unlikely?), has a good sensor, and can use legacy glass, I'll buy it.

Exactly.

It MUST have some drawbacks, but after I had a really good "play" with a Nikon V1 last week, I'm honestly beginning to wonder what those drawbacks could be.........and if a (semi-)competent photographer couldn't deal with those drawbacks relatively easily.

If the electronic viewfinder tech is good enough, we really could be on the verge of seeing dSLRs having less "point" to them. I certainly wouldn't cry if we moved away from bodies which resemble SLRs in almost every way.

As soon as my contacts hear anything definite, I'll post more, but again, anyone out there from Canon itself, don't feel reluctant to post info' up.

Regards,

Simon

skygod44 wrote in post #14336935
I know that.
But here, in Japan, words are flashing around that "it" is finally coming!!!!


If the electronic viewfinder tech is good enough, we really could be on the verge of seeing dSLRs having less "point" to them. I certainly wouldn't cry if we moved away from bodies which resemble SLRs in almost every way.

As soon as my contacts hear anything definite, I'll post more, but again, anyone out there from Canon itself, don't feel reluctant to post info' up.

Regards,

Simon

I would also be interested in a smaller mirrorless but bigger sensor camera

No EF, no buy buy.

Yup, a FF mirrorless with great ISO and DR performance could very well replace my DSLR kit entirely.

I never shoot action, and I know that I can live without the fast FPS.

I guess I'm missing some vital knowledge about this whole mirror-less thing but...

The cameras I've seen with EVFs suffer from noticeable lag on the screen and a distinct lack of resolution as well. If both conditions were to be improved, what's to keep that tech from migrating to say, a G13 and therefore simply make a good P&S (G12) that much better.

What's the attraction of the 4/3, "Pen", etc. genre? Is it simply the size? Features? Ability to use "grown up" lenses?

Call me crazy, but I don't see the appeal of going out to shoot with a 70-200 or 300mm with nothing more than a "pack of smokes" on the back end. I know it won't balance very well because it already doesn't using an un-gripped SLR. I find "big" glass + small camera = unwieldy kit.

Don't Hate .. Educate!

It is all about having DSLR-level image quality and an interchangable lens system, in a much smaller and lighter package.

Mirrorless is easier to take with you all the time, and it is perfect for travel and walk around.

A mirrorless might not be ideal for photojournalism, sports and other action photography, but for everything else, I'd much rather shoot with one of these tiny pocket beasts than with a big heavy DSLR.

Mirrorless with
a) a crop or FF sensor and
b) a "50mm FF equivalent" pancake f/1.4 lens (EF or EF-S of course)
would be great.

I wouldn't buy one now but in the future, definitely.

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #14337181
I guess I'm missing some vital knowledge about this whole mirror-less thing but...

I think Jay, one of the most important aspects is the lack of a great big 'moving part'....which therefore can never go wrong/wear out, doesn't need to flip out of the way before a shot can be taken, and doesn't need to be taken into account regarding the lens-to-body attachment point.

I'm sure that's going to happen anyway....but a slim body with its own, smaller but not much lower quality lens system, is, surely, the way of the future? And via an adapter, using ones current lenses while the manufacturer develops native lenses is a "bonus" in my book.

I think many, originally P&S shooters simply don't want to lose the remarkable "pocketability" of a P&S. Include in that a pretty tiny lens or two, and you've got what we've got....but for 1/10 the weight, and 1/4 the price.....err.....soun​ds good to me.....as long as they can clear those last few hurdles: EV lag-rate is certainly one of them, but try out a Sony Alpha77, and you'll see they're almost there.

Call me crazy, but I don't see the appeal of going out to shoot with a 70-200 or 300mm with nothing more than a "pack of smokes" on the back end. I know it won't balance very well because it already doesn't using an un-gripped SLR. I find "big" glass + small camera = unwieldy kit.
Don't Hate .. Educate!

I dunno, Jay.
I don't have an EF500, but my 100-400 is quite a length already......if I merely move my left hand a bit, I could balance anything attached to the "capture-end"....whether it's my 7D or a "pack of smokes".
Find the fulcrum, and anything can balance!

skygod44 wrote in post #14337928
I think many, originally P&S shooters simply don't want to lose the remarkable "pocketability" of a P&S. Include in that a pretty tiny lens or two, and you've got what we've got....but for 1/10 the weight, and 1/4 the price.....err.....soun​ds good to me.....as long as they can clear those last few hurdles: EV lag-rate is certainly one of them, but try out a Sony Alpha77, and you'll see they're almost there.

"pocket-ability" is what I want (including the lens !)

I could see myself buying something like this from Canon. I've been having a long look at the X-1 Pro to lighten my load for nights out on the town or for vacations where I don't specifically plan on taking pics.

A mirrorless EF mount would take care of that nicely, even better if it's FF with no AA filter. An EF mount leica competitor = me writing a check on day 1.

sounds good but my pocket doesn't sound right... we shall see

Is it possible to make an EF camera that looks like that? Wouldn't it have to be fat(deep) like the pentax k01 due to the required lens/sensor distance?

If its possible, awsome.

weeatmice wrote in post #14339548
Is it possible to make an EF camera that looks like that? Wouldn't it have to be fat(deep) like the pentax k01 due to the required lens/sensor distance?

If its possible, awsome.

I've wondered about that myself, the more I think about it the depth could very well be a problem for a very compact ef mount. If Canon released a nice set of sharp primes and zooms to go with it, I might still go for it since the lenses would invariably be more compact. In addition, I'm sure a Zeiss adapter wouldn't be too far behind a Canon mirrorless offering....