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Studio Lighting Tutorial

 
SteveCliff
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Jun 03, 2003 05:28 |  #1

Anybody know of any *good* tutorials for an average photographer to learn about Studio Lighting ?

DVD would be good, but a book or even online tutorial would be appreciated !

Thanks!




  
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rodbunn
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Jun 03, 2003 07:51 |  #2

This is funny but one of the best places (books) I've found is the B&H Professional Lighting sourcebook that B&H Photo sends me in the mail. I was shocked at how much info they packed into this book which is a catalog of all the lighting they sell. In the front of each section they give a tutorial on the section that follows. They send me one for free (I never asked for one), probably because I've bought from them but you can actually buy one if you want. The # on the book is 800-947-9941 (phone #).... The book is 820 pages long.

I enjoyed it and I refer to it once in a while.....

Good luck, Rod




  
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SteveCliff
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Jun 03, 2003 08:23 |  #3

Thanks Rod!

I forgot to say that I'm actually in the UK, but I'll see if I can source one over here and have a looksie :-)




  
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khenn
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Jun 03, 2003 09:15 |  #4

I don't have any experience with setting up studio lighting, but I have been doing some research. Check out the following link for an explanation.

http://sell-it-on-the-net.com …_guide/ph_guide​_index.htm (external link)

Also, I found some dealers on Ebay that seemed to be knowedgable. I sent an email to customerservice at jandkgroup dot com, and got the following reply.

Thanks for your email and questions on studio lighting. Let me
start with the difference between digital photography lighting and film
photography lighting.

* Digital cameras have a white balance setting built into the camera.
In other words the digital camera adjusts to different light sources
(daylight, tungsten, florescent, etc)

* Photographic film is white balanced for daylight. Photographic film
is not balanced for tungsten, florescent, etc. If you use photographic
film inside with tungsten, florescent, etc the photos will have a
yellow look to them.

If you go with continuous lighting, you would not be able to use
the continuous lighting with your Canon EOS Film camera. With the
features of the Canon 10D digital camera, I would recommend that you
consider strobes vs continuous lighting.

Here is how the strobes can be fired/triggered with your Canon
10D digital camera.

1. The strobes have a built in optical sensor/slave that will trigger
the strobe to fire when the flash on your Canon 10D digital camera
fires.

2. You would connect the strobe by a pc sync cord which comes with the
strobes to your Canon 10D digital camera. You will need a hot shoe to
pc sync cord adaptor. We sell them from $ 14.99 to $ 49.99

3. You can use an Infrared Transmitter that would connect to the hot
shoe on your Canon 10D digital camera. When the Infrared Transmitter
fires, it will trigger the built in optical sensor/slave on the strobes.

I recommend option 2, having one of the strobes connected to
your Canon 10D digital camera with a pc sync cord and not using the
flash on your camera to fire/trigger the strobes.

For studio photography, here is how you would set up your Canon 10D
digital camera.

* Set your Canon 10D digital camera to manual mode
* Set your shutter to 1/125 of a second
* Set your f/stop (this will vary depending on the strobe you use)
* Connect the strobe(s) to your Canon 10D digital camera with the pc
sync cord
* Turn on the strobe(s)
* Set the strobe(s) to full power
* Make sure the Canon 10D digital camera is set to manual mode
* Shoot some test images to determine the correct exposure (you can
also use a flash meter)
* Start composing and making great photos

Now there is a little more to this. But this will give you an
idea of how everything connects/works together. You will need to take
the time to determine your f/stop and try different lighting setups,
etc.

Your Canon EOS film camera will work the same way with the
strobes as your Canon 10D digital camera.

Next is the number of strobes you will want or need. The most
commom strboe setup is 3 to 4 strobes.

* One strobe for main lighting
* One strobe for fill lighting
* One strobe for backdrop lighting
* One strobe for accent/hair lighting

I would recommend that you start with a 2 or 3 strobe lighting
kit. Here is a 3 strobe lighting kit.

Qty Description
---------------
2 HKS/Bosh 200 watt second strobes (main and fill strobes)
1 HKS/Bosh 100 watt second strobe (backdrop strobe)
2 45" white/black umbrellas
2 7 1/2 ft tall light stands
1 3 ft tall light stand
1 Barndoors for the HKS/Bosh 100 watt second strobe

Price would be $ 499.99 plus shipping.

For backdrop systems and backdrop, here is what I would
recommend.

Pro Heavy Duty Background System
http://cgi.ebay.com …?ViewItem&item=​2929231221 (external link)

Hand Dyed 9'x9' Blue Muslin Backdrop
http://cgi.ebay.com …?ViewItem&item=​2931276554 (external link)

Once you review this information, you can call Jim or me at:
800-476-3864 from 9:00 am to 4:00 pm CST, Monday thru Friday or send me
an email. Just let me know what questions you have on studio lighting
and how I can help

Thanks again,
Ken

Ken Knighton
J and K Group, Inc.
email:
Visit Our eBay Store: http://www.stores.ebay​.com/jandkgroup (external link)

Anyone have any further suggestions?




  
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SteveCliff
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Jun 03, 2003 11:09 |  #5

Thanks for this link Kris - very useful introduction for a beginner!

Hopefully, the guy who has bought the light set up will let me play around with them, as long as the studio isn't booked!

All I need now is a model who can sit still looking pretty for hours on end and not get tired/fed up/hungry/require wages/etc. :)




  
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David ­ Lawson
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Jun 03, 2003 11:17 |  #6

Michael Freeman did a book on Studio lighting and like all his work is good. Visit your local library and see what they have.




  
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richardshipp
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Jun 03, 2003 14:11 |  #7

"Creative Lighting Techniques for studio professionals"By: Dave Montizambert.
Top notch stuff!




  
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dwdmguy
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Jun 04, 2003 11:50 |  #8

Khenn: I really don't get this. Please explain.


If you go with continuous lighting, you would not be able to use
the continuous lighting with your Canon EOS Film camera. With the
features of the Canon 10D digital camera, I would recommend that you consider strobes vs continuous lighting.




  
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Jun 05, 2003 06:56 |  #9

All I need now is a model who can sit still looking pretty for hours on end and not get tired/fed up/hungry/require wages/etc. :)

Try a coat rack or light stand with a full face holloween mask on it.
Should work


"Save the model, Save the camera, The Photographer can be repaired"
www.longwatcher.com (external link)
1DsMkIII as primary camera with f2.8L zooms and the 85L
http://www.longwatcher​.com/photoequipment.ht​m (external link)

  
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cowman345
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Jun 05, 2003 22:42 |  #10

I've seen a lot of references (books, web tutorials, etc) in the past that have shown wonderful lighting techniques with just one light... you don't really need to start with all those lights. If you're buying a kit though, there are some good deals out there.

-dave-




  
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cowman345
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Jun 05, 2003 22:50 |  #11

http://www.photoworksh​op.com/ (external link)

check out this site for a WEALTH of photography info, it's where I first started learning about light and lighting. free registration, very real-media intensive (which is annoying, but worth it). All tutorials are audio or interactive video, as i recall. check out the artificial lighting section.

-dave-




  
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louiea
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Jun 06, 2003 09:15 |  #12

Web photo school offers downloadable lighting lessons. They have about 300 modules wherein they diagram in detail how a certain photograph was created in terms of lighting set up. The diagrams are via actual photos. It is quite informative and the lessons cover a vast array of lighting set ups. Each lesson can be read in ten minutes - they are very concise and esy to understand.

http://www.webphotosch​ool.com/ (external link)

It costs $60 a year or $20 for a month.
You can actually just enroll for a month and download everything and save them. Then maybe enroll again after a year to download the new lessons.

There are some sample lessons for free.
Check it out.




  
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daveh
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Jun 06, 2003 09:42 |  #13

dwdmguy wrote:
Khenn: I really don't get this. Please explain.


If you go with continuous lighting, you would not be able to use
the continuous lighting with your Canon EOS Film camera.

Perhaps the person who wrote that (not Khenn) had never heard of an 80B filter.

cowman345 wrote:
I've seen a lot of references (books, web tutorials, etc) in the past that have shown wonderful lighting techniques with just one light... you don't really need to start with all those lights.

Yeah you do have to be careful taking lighting advice from someone selling lighting. In many cases a reflector (which can be as simple as a sheet of paper or foam core) will do the same job as another light, but people selling lights sometimes forget that.




  
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lobo4200
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Jun 06, 2003 11:00 |  #14

I have to second the B&H " The Professional Lighting SourceBook". If you are not very familiar with what is available this catalog has it all and has very good definitions and gives the basics of lighting.
I would also recommend "Creative Lighting Techniques for Studio Photographers" by Dave Montizambert.
Go to Amazon.com and do a search of books on studio lighting. Some of the readers reviews might be helpfull.

B&H Photo catolog link...

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …og.html___SID=F​5D442B61A0 (external link)




  
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coarphoto
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Jun 06, 2003 11:44 |  #15

i hope i can help you out. please don't let my inability to type,spell,or punctuate keep you from reading this......

i would suggest that you begin with one light- that could be a window or a flash even a desk lamp. learn how to manipulate your light source by using a diffuser in front in front of it..(bed sheet wax paper etc) then use some reflectors, i would try tin foil, mirror, white paper - expiriment once you feel comfortable then maybe invest in some decent strobes (rugged so they last) you could start with still life and that will really help you to understand how to change the quality of light which in turn will make you a much better photographer....




  
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