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Canon EOS-1D Mark II N User Report

 
Tomasz ­ Dziechciarz
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Dec 12, 2005 09:49 as a reply to  @ post 974901 |  #31

Pekka wrote:
Later I asked why don't you guys never use the mirror noise reduction mode (all shooters on our concert halls use Mark II without mirror NR on, and it is distractive especially because they do not know the music). He said it is a personal setting and he cannot access it. I told "you can set it with computer". He said "But it can only be set on or off, I do not need that all the time". I told "after you set that personal function active you can set it on and off whenever you like". He did not know that and thanked me for the info.

mirror noise reduction mode - tell me please what is it?


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Dec 12, 2005 09:55 |  #32

Special setting that slows the mirror down so it doesn't make such a loud "clunk" when you take a picture. Slows down the camera a bit, too.


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Dec 12, 2005 10:29 as a reply to  @ post 992130 |  #33

Pekka wrote:
Do you agree to possiblity that the changes you see are because
a) JPEG processing in N version has been changed to have more sharpening by default
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b) you Mark II was not calibrated properly to your lenses, or dirty?

a) I agree, I'm sure it's a software upgrade within the camera, however it does seem that the camera is greatly improved, maybe the same hardware but ever so slightly altered.

b) According to Canon, my MkII is perfect, however is isn't. All my lenses work perfectly with my 1D and MkIIn, yet not with the MkII. Canon asked whether I wanted to send all my lenses in, however I can't afford to sit about for a fortnight whilst Canon play with my kit leaving me without my tools!

There is definitely something wrong with a lot of MkIIs, however Canon refuses to admit it. Everyone using them at the Track World Cup was resorting to manual focus! I can't explain it, but there is a fundemental issue with many MkIIs which seems to have been solved with the MkIIn.




  
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Dec 12, 2005 22:58 as a reply to  @ Incomplete Pete's post |  #34

I don't know if I would say "there is something wrong" with the old mk2's.......sure there's a chance, I know the one I bought put out terrible images.......UNLESS you sharpened the living daylights out of them, then they were good. Myself I believe Canon thought the pro's buying this camera wanted NO in camera processing, but they found out they were wrong. They might have discovered that a major percentage of the buyers just wanted a pro camera, and didn't really want to spend their time post processing EVERY shot. I'm a perfect example. I'm no pro, I just shoot for fun but I like having the best equipment and I can afford it, but the post processing was a drag........so I returned the old mk2, and always saying "if Canon could make the mk2 have sharper images I would buy another one in a heartbeat". Enter the Mk2N. Canon's not stupid, why would they HAVE TO sell me a 20D when I really can afford (and want) a Mk2? Canon knows "Bling"! Lets face it.........can that old man really drive that Corvette.........hell no, but he sure looks good in it. Canon understands this, that's why they make a upper level camera that has the best of both worlds.....great shots right out of the camera, or process your little heart out..........and those are just the jpg's.......of course there's always RAW.

Don't know if I am right or wrong, but that my take on this.


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Dec 13, 2005 05:14 |  #35

I strugle to see how the MkIIN could have faster/better auto focus and more sharpening than the original MKII unless the parameters arnt equal, there isnt anything that the MKIIN should be able to do in this respect that the MKII cant and visa versa, I covered the Rally GB for a national magazine and out of the 2004 images i took using 2 1DmkII's id say 98% of them were well focused and sharp, just looking at the photos posted by KennyG and Cadwell in the Sports forum show whats regualy possible from the 1DMKII, Id honestly say that if anyone was getting any thing less then some thing is wrong either with the equipment or....dare i say it...the user ?




  
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Dec 13, 2005 05:51 |  #36

attu, I think every photographer with a screwey MkII has had a crisis of confidence, that was until we returned to our trusty 1D and discovered we could still take a photo! lol




  
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Dec 14, 2005 17:47 as a reply to  @ attu's post |  #37

[QUOTE=attu]I strugle to see how the MkIIN could have faster/better auto focus and more sharpening than the original MKII unless the parameters arnt equal, there isnt anything that the MKIIN should be able to do in this respect that the MKII cant and visa versa, QUOTE]

The "N" files are indeed different, and are sharper than the old Mk2.I have even read a couple posts from top pro's using this camera that even state the RAW files are better. Just the fact that the ACR that opens the old Mk2 files will not open the N files should tell you something. As far as the AF being faster......I doubt that. But the in camera sharpening is without a doubt much higher on the N than the old Mk2. I can't find the Canon web page anymore but it basically said the N had the same in camera sharpening as the 20D. If you look at the link below in the pages regarding sharpness (page 26) you will see the 20D has more sharpening than the old Mk2.

http://www.photoworksh​op.com/canon/EOS_Digit​al.pdf (external link)


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Oct 12, 2006 16:15 |  #38

[QUOTE=SeanH;998421]

attu wrote:
I strugle to see how the MkIIN could have faster/better auto focus and more sharpening than the original MKII unless the parameters arnt equal, there isnt anything that the MKIIN should be able to do in this respect that the MKII cant and visa versa, QUOTE]

The "N" files are indeed different, and are sharper than the old Mk2.I have even read a couple posts from top pro's using this camera that even state the RAW files are better. Just the fact that the ACR that opens the old Mk2 files will not open the N files should tell you something. As far as the AF being faster......I doubt that. But the in camera sharpening is without a doubt much higher on the N than the old Mk2. I can't find the Canon web page anymore but it basically said the N had the same in camera sharpening as the 20D. If you look at the link below in the pages regarding sharpness (page 26) you will see the 20D has more sharpening than the old Mk2.

http://www.photoworksh​op.com/canon/EOS_Digit​al.pdf (external link)

Does this mean that your zoom lenses can look at a higher quality to that of a prime lens?


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