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85mm 1.8 or 100mm Macro 1.8 for portraits

 
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May 01, 2012 19:02 |  #16
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hmm.... alot saying go for the 100mm. Thats what I just might do. Now to choose between the 24-105 and the 100...
Im thinking I'll just end up with the 100L when all is said and done


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May 01, 2012 19:44 |  #17

^^^Why the L?
Unless you need the IS or weather sealing the USM, non L is just as good.


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May 01, 2012 19:50 |  #18

And yeah, if I had to choose between the two (85mm f/1.8 and 100mm macro USM) I'd go with the macro mostly because of its closer focusing ability. Keep in mind that this is on FF. If you're on a crop I would suggest a look at the 60mm macro.

EDIT: The above is all in regard to portraiture.


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May 01, 2012 19:54 |  #19
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twoshadows wrote in post #14363170 (external link)
^^^Why the L?
Unless you need the IS or weather sealing the USM, non L is just as good.

The IS is not NEEDED but I'm sure it would come in hand. The weather sealing is also a good thing. I figure, it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. Im sure that once I've got the lens, I'll have it for years to come. Why not spend the extra 400 now instead of wishing I had later down the road? Not to say I will certainly get the L, but if I do decide on the 100, i will more than likely purchase the L version.

Is there NO difference in IQ between the two?


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May 01, 2012 19:56 |  #20

is this posted twice here?




  
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May 01, 2012 19:56 |  #21

you've got two threads on the same subject, why?




  
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May 01, 2012 20:00 |  #22
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Because I don't have two threads on the same subject. Read the original posts, they're asking two separate questions. I posted two threads instead of combining them for my own reasons.


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May 01, 2012 20:08 |  #23

AAphotog wrote in post #14363228 (external link)
The IS is not NEEDED but I'm sure it would come in hand. The weather sealing is also a good thing. I figure, it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. Im sure that once I've got the lens, I'll have it for years to come. Why not spend the extra 400 now instead of wishing I had later down the road? Not to say I will certainly get the L, but if I do decide on the 100, i will more than likely purchase the L version.

Is there NO difference in IQ between the two?

Very, very little.


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May 01, 2012 20:20 |  #24

I got my 100 in a great package deal, so I never had the need to research and compare the L and the non-L. But having never used a lens with IS before, I will say that I love having it. I have pics that were hand held at 1/10 or 1/15 of a second that looked quite nice. None of my other lenses can do that for me. IS also comes in handy when taking a macro shot hand held. IS gave me shots that I wouldn't have been able to get with a faster shutter speed.


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May 01, 2012 20:34 |  #25
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little canon wrote in post #14363362 (external link)
I got my 100 in a great package deal, so I never had the need to research and compare the L and the non-L. But having never used a lens with IS before, I will say that I love having it. I have pics that were hand held at 1/10 or 1/15 of a second that looked quite nice. None of my other lenses can do that for me. IS also comes in handy when taking a macro shot hand held. IS gave me shots that I wouldn't have been able to get with a faster shutter speed.

And that's my issue. I probably won't need to use the IS the second I get the lens, but Im sure soon enough I'd wish I had it if I did choose to go non L


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May 02, 2012 16:43 |  #26

The 85 1.8 is an older lens that is "rumored" to be updated soon. A patent was filed 12/11 for the updated version. But that doesn't mean anything will happen anytime soon (and Canon files lots of patents that never make it to becoming a real consumer lens). The 100 is a newer lens and the difference was very clear to me in the pics I took. While the 85 has a wider aperture, the CA made me not want to used it wide open.

These are just my personal observations. I did enjoy my 85 for quite a while, but once I got the 100 then the 85 really didn't get used much.


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May 02, 2012 17:19 |  #27

Just for a little clarification. Yes, the 85mm f/1.8 has a fair amount of PF at or near wide open. But most fast primes suffer from this including the "L" primes. It's something you learn to work with. Also, I wouldn't worry a bit about an upgrade to the 85mm f/1.8. A) I doubt they will any time soon and B) even if they did update the lens, it doesn't change the fact that the lens is a gem (especially at its price point).

But in the end, they are different lenses and are often used for different purposes.

OP, you haven't stated your intended subjects with the new lens. This would help those attempting to help you a lot. For instance, if you intend to do any macro then the 100mm is a no brainer. But if you're looking for low light, indoor shots, then the 85mm f/1.8 will outstrip the 100mm nearly every time. So it really depends on your intended use.

One last thing to think about. I know owning an "L" lens has a certain prestige, but for the price of the "L" you could own both the 85mm and 100mm USM macro and not lose a bit of IQ. That's the route I ended up taking because I found that for my intended uses the IS and weather sealing on the 100L was overkill.


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May 02, 2012 21:27 |  #28

Personally for your stated purposes & on that body I'd go with a 70-200 lens. Just a ton more flexible. With a bunch of lights going on, those more open apertures on those fixed lenses wouldn't be a requirement for me. It'd be all about speed of use/ zoom range for me.


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