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May 02, 2012 06:46 |  #1

I want to make a preset like this 1/500,f16,autoISO,+1EV
Can anyone tell me if this is possible?




  
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May 02, 2012 07:09 |  #2

Turn the mode selection dial to M
Turn top dial to (1/)500
Turn back (thumb) dial to (f/)16

Press Iso button at the top of the camera
Turn top dial all the way until it says A
turn back dial to the right for the +1EV over exposure.

This is all done by memory, I hope I have it all right.


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May 02, 2012 07:15 |  #3

no ev correction in M...


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May 02, 2012 07:34 |  #4

You're right, my bad.
It can only be done with <P> <Tv> or <Av>

Question to the OP: What is it that you want to accomplish?


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May 02, 2012 08:06 |  #5

You have three 'user modes' to store whatever camera settings you like.
One of my favorite features of the 7D.

Set up the camera however you like, go into your menu -> User Settings & store.
The dial on the top left can be used to select the preset you just stored.


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May 02, 2012 08:19 as a reply to  @ arkphotos's post |  #6

I think this would be the brainless way to take pictures of birds. I have the 100/400 that I use at 400. I need the f16 to get a decent DOF and the 1/500 to stop all shake[Bird or man]. That leaves ISO as the only available variable. The +1 is to lighten up the bird. I go +2 for birds in flight. I think what I want is not possible but I was wondering if anyone with way more experience than me might have a solution.




  
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May 02, 2012 08:22 |  #7

187 wrote in post #14365740 (external link)
I think this would be the brainless way to take pictures of birds. I have the 100/400 that I use at 400. I need the f16 to get a decent DOF and the 1/500 to stop all shake[Bird or man]. That leaves ISO as the only available variable. The +1 is to lighten up the bird. I go +2 for birds in flight. I think what I want is not possible but I was wondering if anyone with way more experience than me might have a solution.

Use MANUAL mode the way "manual" is supposed to be. Simply aim the camera at something in the same light as the intended subject that is mid-toned and adjust the ISO setting until you see the meter at mid-point. As long as the light source which is illuminating the subject doesn't change, you can shoot for quite a while with the same setting.


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May 02, 2012 08:27 as a reply to  @ SkipD's post |  #8

arkphotos has it. set it how you want it then save that to any of the 3 custom dial settings you want.


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May 02, 2012 08:37 |  #9

fstopg wrote in post #14365763 (external link)
arkphotos has it. set it how you want it then save that to any of the 3 custom dial settings you want.

Unfortunately, that will NOT work.

When the 7D exposure dial is set to "M" you do have the option of using Auto ISO, of course. However, with the dial at "M" and ISO set to Auto, there is no access to the Exposure Compensation (EC) setting. You can set "Auto Exposure Bracketing" (AEB)values but not EC.


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May 02, 2012 08:45 |  #10

The only way I think it can be done is without auto ISO, set the camera to M, set shutter and aperture value and the use ISO to adjust exposure to +1 on the metering scale in the viewfinder, maybe set ISO to a FN button and front dial for easy access?


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May 02, 2012 08:56 |  #11

187 wrote in post #14365740 (external link)
I think this would be the brainless way to take pictures of birds. I have the 100/400 that I use at 400. I need the f16 to get a decent DOF and the 1/500 to stop all shake[Bird or man]. That leaves ISO as the only available variable. The +1 is to lighten up the bird. I go +2 for birds in flight. I think what I want is not possible but I was wondering if anyone with way more experience than me might have a solution.

I shoot mostly birds. I can safely say, 99% of the time you don't really need such small aperture f16 to get the Depth of Field that covers the entire subject (the bird) in focus, unless you can get REALLY close to the bird, i.e. within 5 ~ 7ft. This is because, setting your aperture to f16, you are doing it at the expense of shutter speed and also of ISO. The former is critical for bird in action, the latter is important for noise-free images.

There is no one fixed formula for perched bird, and another formula for bird inflight, because the lighting condition, background, and subject's color, are different. The preset is good as a starting point, but quickly you will find you need to adjust it from there, to get the best result SOOC. In my experience, a good starting point for birds is:
1. Use Av mode, which allows you to control the aperture, the camera picks the shutter speed (or Tv mode. When you understand Exposure and metering, then perhaps can try M mode)
2. Aperture set to f8
3. ISO 400 (if your camera body can handle noise effectively, start at ISO 800)
4. Exposure Compensation = 0 or -0.33 for perched bird. EC = +0.67 or +1 for bird inflight or any backlit situation

These are just starting points. You likely need to adjust it from there as you start shooting. Get familiar with the dials, wheels, and buttons so that you can change settings on the fly as needed. Happy shooting. :)


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May 02, 2012 08:56 as a reply to  @ Soulman's post |  #12

missed that one. didn't think about the Ev. That will teach me.


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May 02, 2012 14:25 as a reply to  @ fstopg's post |  #13

Thanks to all. The consensus is no and that is what I expected. I'm already using presets and bracketed in manual and some times AV and sometimes TV. I also reprogramed various buttons and I know how to use appropriate focus modes. But when that warbler pops out sometimes you get one burst and never see it again and with the setup I want but can't have I would a stand a pretty good chance of getting a decent, not great pic. Most of the suggestions I have used at one time or another. Thanks again.




  
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May 03, 2012 13:47 |  #14

Stay well away from F16 for bird photography. It will result in a slower shutter speed which is the mortal enemy of birders..........I use F7.1 on my 100-400 normally, ISO 800 in Aperture mode. If you need more light then go ISO 1600 or higher, and use native ISO's only ( 100 - 200- 400 etc )

If light levels are high, then lower your ISO, BUT try to keep your shutter speed at least 1/800sec. As you stated, birds normally give you a nano second to get the shot. Cleaning noise in PP afterwards is preferable to a blurry shot due to a slow shutter speed..........

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