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May 04, 2012 01:05 |  #1
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no......you got it all wrong....


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May 04, 2012 01:05 |  #2

Short answer: yes.
A minor limitation is that for very extended vistas, 24 mm may not be wide enough, but I feel that the perceived wisdom that landscapes require ultrawide angle lenses is a bit exaggerated. Ansel Adams of course favoured a short telephoto for his landscapes.

The pairing of the 24-105 with a 10-20 or 10-22 would cover that end of things nicely.




  
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May 04, 2012 01:06 |  #3

kin2son wrote in post #14377160 (external link)
no......you got it all wrong....

Would you care to elaborate?




  
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xarqi wrote in post #14377163 (external link)
Would you care to elaborate?

Why would it be a good lens for landscape when the kit 18-55 and/or 55-250 can do the same (well better imho, but I'll be nice to you) job?


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May 04, 2012 01:13 as a reply to  @ xarqi's post |  #5
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The pairing of the 24-105 with a 10-20 or 10-22 would cover that end of things nicely.

That wasn't OP's question....stop forcing an uwa down his throat.

No matter which way you look at it, 24-105 isn't a good choice for landscape on crop. End of story.


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May 04, 2012 01:28 |  #6

Not wide enough, but then again, some people are ok shooting landscapes with the 35L on a FF. If you are ok with being kind of narrow, you'll be rewarded with a very flexible FL. I used it on a 7D for a while (borrowed), and it was pretty nice to have nearly an all in one. At that time, I had a 10-20mm anyhow. The 15-85mm seems like a much better 1 lens solution minus the variable aperture.


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May 04, 2012 04:17 as a reply to  @ Charlie's post |  #7

kin2son wrote in post #14377181 (external link)
Why would it be a good lens for landscape when the kit 18-55 and/or 55-250 can do the same (well better imho, but I'll be nice to you) job?

Even if it were granted that an 18-55 or 55-250 could do the same, or even better, that would not mean that the 24-105 was not a good landscape lens.

kin2son wrote in post #14377190 (external link)
That wasn't OP's question....stop forcing an uwa down his throat.

If anything, I was doing the opposite. Read what I wrote again and do some thinking.

No matter which way you look at it, 24-105 isn't a good choice for landscape on crop. End of story.

Again, why not?
You have offered nothing at all to support this assertion.
What deficiencies do landscapes taken with a 24-105 display?




  
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May 04, 2012 04:26 as a reply to  @ xarqi's post |  #8

Yes you can use it for landscape. But it is not that width. I always missed the mm under the 24 when using it on a crop body. I used most of the time the Canon 17-55 on a crop body. And for some width landscapes I use the Canon 10-22.

I personally did not like the 24-105 on the crop body (7D) but love it on my FF.

Maybe these are also options for you;
Canon 10-22
Canon 15-85
Canon 17-55

I also like to shoot landscapes with the 70-200II ;-)a I think there is no perfect landscape lens. Depends all of your style of shooting.


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May 04, 2012 04:54 as a reply to  @ Superdaantje's post |  #9

I shoot the majority of my lansdscapes in the region of 28-90mm on a full frame, which is the equivelant of 17-55mm on your crop sensor T3i.

The 24-105 makes a great landscape lens on a full frame camera but I would personally find it not wide enough on a crop sensor camera (everyone has there own preferences of course).

I did shoot landscapes with the 24-105 on a crop camera but I had a 17-40 as well to cover the lenghts I needed and as they are not EF-S lenses they work on my full frame cameras as well.

If you are sticking with your crop camera sensor I would look at a couple of possible options if you don't want to use the 18-55 kit lens for some reason (I'm only going to mention Canon here but there are other alternatives on the 1st lens):
1. Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 IS - would make a decent landscape lens and you also get a nice fast lens for shooting some indoor shots etc. I would say however I personally think it is over-priced.
2. Canon 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS - gives you wider and longer equivelant to 24-135mm on a crop sensor camera. Really is a fantastic focal length range for landscapes as sometimes I shoot landscapes at 135mm. You also get a great walk-about lens.


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xarqi wrote in post #14377521 (external link)
Even if it were granted that an 18-55 or 55-250 could do the same, or even better, that would not mean that the 24-105 was not a good landscape lens.

Sorry but I don't see how in your reply suggests that the 24-105 is actually good for landscape.

xarqi wrote in post #14377162 (external link)
A minor limitation is that for very extended vistas, 24 mm may not be wide enough, but I feel that the perceived wisdom that landscapes require ultrawide angle lenses is a bit exaggerated. Ansel Adams of course favoured a short telephoto for his landscapes.

You said 24mm might not be wide enough, also the fact that landscape doesn't has to be always done with an UWA (which i agree), but still that doesn't make the 24-105 a good choice does it?

You gave absolutely NO reason as to why it's a good choice, or it's a good choice for beginner because a pro favoured a short telephoto for his landscapes?

xarqi wrote in post #14377521 (external link)
What deficiencies do landscapes taken with a 24-105 display?

I didn't say there's any deficiencies, and that's not what i meant. It's just not the best tool for the job. Like I said, the 24-105 gives minimal (if any) advantage compared to the kit lens for landscape on crop.

So what advantages do landscapes taken with a 24-105 display on crop for you to say yes over other better (and cheaper) alternatives?

Would you care to elaborate?


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May 04, 2012 07:20 as a reply to  @ kin2son's post |  #11

I'm not really sure some of these posts are constructive and helping the OP at all.

Two of you are going on the naughty step in a minute and you know who you are.


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May 04, 2012 07:26 |  #12

Think it could work just fine, lots of range, I personally find 24mm wide for "most" things on crop (not all) and i used to use a 70-200 for landscapes, 24-105 cover alot of range.
15-85 would also be a good fit, alot wider and still in good range. Think either would be good choices.


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WayneCornish wrote in post #14377869 (external link)
I'm not really sure some of these posts are constructive and helping the OP at all.

I am trying to be constructive....24-105 is a good general lens (i have one myself), so yea sure it can do landscape. But is it a good choice? Well all i can say is it definitely isn't the best choice:rolleyes:

Do you need constant f4 for landscape when most landscape shots needs to be stopped down to f8+? So you are really paying extra for constant aperture which offers you NO advantage for your job at hand.

Yes the range is nice, but so does 18-135? It gives you extra 6mm on the wide end and 30mm on the long end. So again, is 24-105 a good choice?

I think I'll just leave it for OP to decide...


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May 04, 2012 07:41 |  #14

Every one has his own style of photography. There is no perfect lens for landscape.

The 24-105 can be used for landscape. But if it fits the needs of TS ? only he or she can answer this question.
-what focal length do you take you landscape photos the most ?
-do you think you will mis the mm under the 24 ?
etc etc

Personally I would look at the Canon 17-55 or 15-85 first. These are great lenses. No the do not have a red ring. But they are damn good. I sold my 17-40 in the past to replace it for the 17-55 ;-)a


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May 04, 2012 07:49 |  #15

I use it on my 60D and love the versatility. Another lens to consider is the Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4, gives you more width but not quite the range.




  
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