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canon 70-200 f4 IS vs canon 70-200 f2.8ii IS

 
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May 06, 2012 08:10 |  #16

I asked this same question a year ago and ended up getting the f4 IS. I have some regrets and still think about selling to get the mk2. But that is just my greed talking, the lens itself is great. It really boils down to, do you need the 2.8. I wish I did, but even the f4 is too bulky for me to carry around, so even if I did upgrade to the 2.8, I can't see myself using it more than my f4.

OP, it seems like the 2.8 would be a better choice for you, if you are planning to shoot indoors. The f4's IS is great, but it might be too slow indoors. Correction, it WILL be too slow for indoors.


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May 06, 2012 08:26 |  #17

Do I really need this lens if I am taking pictures of my little kids in daytime?

The short answer: no. You won't need the extra stop, and frankly, I find going much wider open than f/4 really tough with candids of kids anyway.

The f/2.8 is a beast. It weighs about twice as much as the f/4. I bought the f/4 for that reason--I did not want to lug the extra weight (it's a lot--look it up) on my back.

Remember that if you on occasion need the extra stop (I haven't yet), you can always boost ISO. Yes, you will get a little more noise, but for the occasional shot, do you care?

Also, the 2.8 costs $1000 more. For that $1000, you can buy a lot of other stuff that will help with candids of kids. E.g., particularly if you are shooting crop, you will want something shorter for use indoors. You could buy a good shorter, faster lens for indoor use. If you don't have one, you will want a decent flash with a bounce head, along with a bounce card like a Demb Flip-It.


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May 06, 2012 12:05 |  #18

calvinjhfeng wrote in post #14386956 (external link)
I am debating on whether to get 70-200mm 2.8 IS II or go with Sigma 85mm F1.4 + 70-200mm F4 IS.
What do you think? Any opinion?
I am not sure if f4 enough (even with IS) for indoor.
I rarely pull out a 70-200 indoor though. Then that makes me ponder is it pointless to get IS if what I do mostly is controlled lighting portrait.

I just went through the same dilema - 70-200 mk2 or 70-200 F4IS + 100mm macro L. I ended up with the 70-200mm mk2 and it's hardly been off my camera since. Weight is no problem, its on my Black Rapid strap and the IS really is so good you can leave your tripod behind.........


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Jun 12, 2012 17:45 |  #19

This is always a tough call, as I am also debating between those 2. Even though your budget and where you shooting would decide this, as well as do you want to carry more weight or less., I still find it is so hard to make a decision. The feeling of regretting that we make the wrong decision scare me and I still back and forth. I always want the best... though it is relative, but in this case... it is so hard....


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Jun 12, 2012 17:56 |  #20

calvinjhfeng wrote in post #14386956 (external link)
Sigma 85mm F1.4 + 70-200mm F4 IS.
What do you think? Any opinion?

I have this combo and it is pretty darn good. If I need a wider aperture than F4 I just switch over. The F4 IS is very sharp and is a great lens, as is the Sigma 85. For portaits with great bokeh it is a top lens. I also have a Sigma 50 if I need to go wider.


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Jun 12, 2012 19:35 |  #21

I always curious about this, but you guys say the advantage of the MKII is it can shoot in a less light area, but then again, how dark is it to be unacceptable for f4 IS version?


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Jun 12, 2012 21:42 as a reply to  @ post 14387237 |  #22

The reason I shoot with the 70-200mm f/4L IS lens

Size, size, size and did I mention size!


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Jun 12, 2012 21:50 |  #23

Anyone considering the f4IS should at least consider. The 70-300L. Awesome lens


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Jun 13, 2012 06:14 |  #24

In daytime the f4 will suffice. You can pick up a used one for a little less than half the price of the 2.8. If you think you need the 2.8, then sell it...no harm done. Plus the f4 is so much lighter.




  
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Dec 11, 2012 00:26 |  #25

Just to update people - bought the f4 is nd then always wondered what the other side looks like. Got the f2.8 mk II and so far I have not gone out the house but I like it. Not much different but then gain my skills are not as fine tuned as most of the people on the forum!


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Dec 11, 2012 00:35 |  #26

I recently got a 70-200 f4 IS. I got it for $850 in pristine condition, so I jumped on it. I'll get a f2.8 later if I need it or feel limited by the f4. In the meantime, the f4 is seeing a lot of camera time because it is so light, portable and just delectably good!! :)


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Dec 11, 2012 07:43 |  #27

paddler4 wrote in post #14387352 (external link)
The short answer: no. You won't need the extra stop, and frankly, I find going much wider open than f/4 really tough with candids of kids anyway.

The f/2.8 is a beast. It weighs about twice as much as the f/4. I bought the f/4 for that reason--I did not want to lug the extra weight (it's a lot--look it up) on my back.

Remember that if you on occasion need the extra stop (I haven't yet), you can always boost ISO. Yes, you will get a little more noise, but for the occasional shot, do you care?

Also, the 2.8 costs $1000 more. For that $1000, you can buy a lot of other stuff that will help with candids of kids. E.g., particularly if you are shooting crop, you will want something shorter for use indoors. You could buy a good shorter, faster lens for indoor use. If you don't have one, you will want a decent flash with a bounce head, along with a bounce card like a Demb Flip-It.

For all these reasons, I have kept the 70-200 f/4 IS instead of upgrading to the f/2.8 MKII -- I bought the f/4 IS soon after it was released by Canon. With the high ISO performance of the newer bodies, I have even been able to use the f/4 lens to shoot indoor ice hockey. If I need a fast telephoto, I have the 135L to fall back on.


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Dec 11, 2012 08:16 |  #28

I've had the f/4 and it was great during the day but has anyone used the f/2.8 at night? Just wondering what your thoughts were on it.




  
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Dec 11, 2012 08:29 |  #29

I used to have a f2.8 non-IS, but over time I found the weight to be a problem and often left the lens at home just because I didn't want to carry it around along with all the other paraphanalia kids seem to need.I ended up selling it and getting the f4 IS instead, and was much happier. I haven't really missed the f2.8 because the lens is always used in daylight and I Iove the portability.


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Dec 11, 2012 08:38 |  #30

iso 10223 crops, both lenses are very close at f/4

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