Alternative way to triger flash

Hi.

I am using a 430 ex on a eos 60d body.
I would like to know.
I ussualy use my flash on my hotshoe with a gell diffuser...those white square plastic difusser..

So my question is.... For portraits i ussualy set my speedlight to high speed sync.
But with removing it from the hotshoe i can only trigger it by using my popup flash which restrict the shutter speed to 250 and require the popup to charge each time....

So i am guessing i need a radio transmitter of something?

Is the effect of taking the flash of the camera such a huge effect opposite to use a diffuser on a hotshoe mounted flash?

Thanx sorry with the terrible long explanation....

The popup flash, as master, won't enable HSS. You need a Canon or Canon compatible master flash (550 or 580 series) in the hot shoe to use HSS in wireless mode, or an E-TTL extension cord for the 430.

What kind of diffuser? If you mean a stofen, or anything that's roughly the size of your flash head, then unless you're bouncing off something all you're doing is eating light.

The cheapest way to get off camera and still maintain HSS (assuming you actually need HSS) is to pickup an off camera ETTL sync cord - I don't know what country you're in, but they vary from £15-25 here. You connect one end to the hotshoe, and the other to the flash.

If you need it to be further away than that then you'll either need to get another flash that can act as a master (580EX/II or a 550EX 2nd hand) and put that on the hotshoe to trigger the 430. Another alternative is to pickup a trigger that supports "hypersync", but be aware that these usually require you to fire the flash at full power, which obviously kills your recycle times. There are also ETTL compatible radio triggers, but they're pretty expensive.

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delko wrote in post #14392398
Ok so ill remove the diffuser then.

Another i will try to get a ettl extention cord. I will also then need a large bracket to hold my camera and my flash?

I have looked at the 580 ex i just need the money.

It will be an investment though.

Thanx for all your replies

You don't need a bracket unless you don't want to hand hold it, or don't buy a cable long enough to read a light stand.

The 580exII is pretty expensive, you can get the same master option with a 2nd hand 550EX though, and they're built like tanks so I wouldn't be concerned about going 2nd hand.

Last question :i have a upcoming location shoot. Shout i rather shoot without the diffuser?
It will be fired off my hotshoe on high speed sync i have no other option it will just be fill in light

delko wrote in post #14393512
Last question :i have a upcoming location shoot. Shout i rather shoot without the diffuser?
It will be fired off my hotshoe on high speed sync i have no other option it will just be fill in light

Those diffusers to practically nothing for you, except where you can bounce flash. And if you can bounce flash, then you dont need one if the first place. So ditch the plastic, its just eating power for no efffect.

delko wrote in post #14393512
Last question :i have a upcoming location shoot. Shout i rather shoot without the diffuser?
It will be fired off my hotshoe on high speed sync i have no other option it will just be fill in light

All that diffuser does is send your light in every direction at once, it doesn't "soften" it at all. If you're bouncing it off walls/ceilings they can be useful on camera, but if the flash has a catch light card then I'd prefer that if I was bouncing personally.

Thanx

I will ditch it....

Guess this threAd was long enough.
I think i know what i should get....

Thank you for all your imputs.

Summary.

Ditch plastic.

Get umbrella or softbox instead.

Get ettl extention cord or speedlite transmitter (as by link)

Use 430 ex diffusing plastic card.


Thanx

If you're shooting portraits, it's not clear to me why you need high speed sync at all. I use two 430EXs wirelessly controlled by the pop-up on my 60D all the time for portraits and it works great. I use a softbox on each of them as well.

Single flash lighting

You can achieve fairly decent portrait lighting using a bounced single hotshoe flash (I used a 550EX for these portraits) on a Stroboflash Camera Flip Bracket. I trigger my flash using a Canon Off-Camera Cord and modify the light with a Joe Demb Flash Diffuser Pro www.dembflashproducts.​com

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HughR wrote in post #14394635
If you're shooting portraits, it's not clear to me why you need high speed sync at all. I use two 430EXs wirelessly controlled by the pop-up on my 60D all the time for portraits and it works great. I use a softbox on each of them as well.

Hugh.

If im doing something wrong please help.

But if i take a model to the outdoors or in the nature and then i basically use natural light. Lets say in the afternoon.Under the eyes gorm darkness so i put my 430ex on the hotshoe put it on high sync go in manual mode op my 60 d and the 430 ex on ettl high speed sync. And i can continue exposing as i always do. I dont need to worry? I just use it as a fill in light

Is that correct? Its very portable and feel if it works for me i get rid of the shadows.....

I am thinking about getting another 430 ex or a 550 ex for using together and triggering both wirelessly after you recent post. Super portable and then i can do limited studio work

Thanx

Im eager to learn please help me so i can stop looking like a rookie

HSS is only necessary/used if you want to shoot faster than 1/250, and you only need to do that if you want to kill/reduce bright ambient light, so if you are saying you're mainly using the ambient for lighting, then you're probably not using HSS.

SJRobbins wrote in post #14397342
HSS is only necessary/used if you want to shoot faster than 1/250, and you only need to do that if you want to kill/reduce bright ambient light, so if you are saying you're mainly using the ambient for lighting, then you're probably not using HSS.

Ok so im not using Hss but it is still used for fill in light, on the hotshoe... Is that te right way though ? Shooting together with ambient light in the outdoors?