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What will it take for g12 to go 200-300mm range???

 
Fenka856
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May 08, 2012 13:58 |  #1

is it even possible?:lol:


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May 08, 2012 13:59 |  #2

Walk Closer...


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May 08, 2012 14:08 |  #3

Go over to the lensmate website. You'll need one of their lens adapters and some form of screw on tcon.




  
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May 08, 2012 14:21 as a reply to  @ crn3371's post |  #4

Before you buy an adapter and tele-converter, see if you can find some comparison shots that show the difference between the telephoto image and the camera's 560mm equivalent digital zoom.

When I was trying to find an inexpensive zoom lens, my tests showed that cropping the image from a shorter, high-quality lens produced better images than using inexpensive lenses to increase the focal length.

With 10MP, you can do a lot of cropping before you get down to too small of a file for normal displaying!


Replacing my Canon 7D, Tokina 12-24mm, Canon 17-55mm, Sigma 30mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.4, and 150-500mm with a Panasonic Lumix FZ1000. I still have the 17-55 and the 30 available for sale.

  
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May 08, 2012 18:33 |  #5

Fenka856 wrote in post #14399837 (external link)
is it even possible?:lol:

Yep, with the Canon TC-DC58C (2.0x) tele converter lens, and the Lensmate parts A + C adaptor tubes, you can get 10x optical (280 mm equivalent) zoom.

Here are some links;

http://www.lensmateonl​ine.com/newsite/G10.ht​ml (external link) (Lensmate diagrams)

http://www.dpreview.co​m …/photos/1077054​/img_1459w (external link) (link to my Gallery on DPR, showing the lens and tube combos.)

http://www.dpreview.co​m …8/photos/467046​/5xoptical (external link) (another link to my Gallery on DPR showing some images taken a while back using the tele lens, as well as digital tele converter option with the lens also in use, taking it out to 644 mm equiv. The first shot is just the 5x optical of the G11, then with the 2x tele, then with 2x tele plus 1.4x digital tele, then 2x tele plus 2.3 digital tele)

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May 09, 2012 12:20 |  #6

Thank you! This just gave me an idea for a little more reach. I plan on doing some offshore shots for my friend who surfs


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May 09, 2012 12:24 |  #7

My whole DSLR adventure started when trying to achieve more reach for surfing shots. At the time, point and shoots had so much shutter lag and such slow auto-focus that zooming in became the least of my problems. I'll be interested in hearing how you do with the G12.


Replacing my Canon 7D, Tokina 12-24mm, Canon 17-55mm, Sigma 30mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.4, and 150-500mm with a Panasonic Lumix FZ1000. I still have the 17-55 and the 30 available for sale.

  
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May 09, 2012 12:40 |  #8

For the price of a TCON, you could buy a second compact camera with a big zoom. Yes you'll have to step down to a smaller sensor, but a TCON kill image quality, too.


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May 09, 2012 15:02 |  #9

tkbslc wrote in post #14405259 (external link)
For the price of a TCON, you could buy a second compact camera with a big zoom. Yes you'll have to step down to a smaller sensor, but a TCON kill image quality, too.

Not really...

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May 09, 2012 15:48 |  #10

I have a 350d and 100-300mm by my side just in case.


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May 09, 2012 18:42 as a reply to  @ Fenka856's post |  #11

Using my 2.0x tele converter lens lets me not only reach optically to 280 mm, but also shoot in RAW. I can then crop to get equivalent longer reaches, and not lose image quality. Using digital zoom or digital tele conversion feature crops in the camera, and will degrade somewhat in comparison. However, it can be useful, and should be tried to see if results are acceptable to you.

I can also use the tele lens on my G9 (it was designed for that camera), plus it's 2.0 digital tele feature and extend my reach to 840 mm equivalent, the same optical reach of the Canon SX40.

Here's a sample I took in March using the 840 mm equivalent with the G9.

IMAGE: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7074/7018473121_770f7a13b0_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/picsdennis/7018​473121/  (external link)
G9 014PSE10 (external link) by dhc42 (external link), on Flickr

Here's another G9 shot with just the 2x lens (420 mme), and cropped some;
IMAGE: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7274/7009831341_f1a7bdcf6f_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/picsdennis/7009​831341/  (external link)
G9 010_cr2 (external link) by dhc42 (external link), on Flickr

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May 10, 2012 06:27 |  #12

Thanks for that! im now getting an idea of what i need to get this done. Trying to have the G12 with me all the time.


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May 10, 2012 07:47 |  #13

I bought the lensmate tubes and TC-DC58C on the advice of denncald and was surprised at how good the combination really is. I use it on a G12. One thing to know, when you have the converter on the camera you can use the lens at full telephoto only, the zoom is no longer effective as heavy vignetting occurs . Also, this TC is rather large so you are going to lose the pocketability of the camera but if you are looking for more reach without noticeable image degradation the teleconverter is the way to go.


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May 10, 2012 11:14 |  #14

Does digital zooming in some newer cameras produce better results than post-production cropping? I thought I read somewhere that the better cameras somehow free up the processor to "concentrate" on the zoomed portion of the image. (Sorry for the terminology.)


Replacing my Canon 7D, Tokina 12-24mm, Canon 17-55mm, Sigma 30mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.4, and 150-500mm with a Panasonic Lumix FZ1000. I still have the 17-55 and the 30 available for sale.

  
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May 10, 2012 11:46 |  #15

cacawcacaw wrote in post #14410630 (external link)
Does digital zooming in some newer cameras produce better results than post-production cropping? I thought I read somewhere that the better cameras somehow free up the processor to "concentrate" on the zoomed portion of the image. (Sorry for the terminology.)

It's not true for my G9 or G11, so I don't know about say a G1 X. The G12 should be the same as the G11. I know there are subtle differences between my processed RAW images cropped to equal a JPEG image using digital tele converter. The RAW is better.

Canon also suggests reducing your resolution when using digital zoom, to keep a higher quality result;

IMAGE: http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5153/5853767448_2c5053143f.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/picsdennis/5853​767448/  (external link)
digital zoom (external link) by dhc42 (external link), on Flickr

I don't reduce my resolution when using the digital tele converter feature, because I'm usually in a hurry to capture the shot.

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