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May 15, 2012 09:10 |  #1

thanks for the help


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May 15, 2012 09:19 |  #2

When the next sports photographer comes along, and undercuts you, you're going to be up in arms.. but it's partially going to be your fault for driving down prices.

Why not match his prices and base your business purely on delivering better quality?

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As far as the actual product goes, my eyes are drawn towards the bottom corners. I would switch it up so the large image is the strongest, the focal point, and the two smaller ones are faded out instead.


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May 15, 2012 09:23 |  #3

I don't think I'd pay more than $10 for that quality.


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May 15, 2012 09:32 |  #4

^ I agree with Numenorean. No offense, but the posters aren't very good. Maybe refine the layout a bit. Change the text up a bit.


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May 15, 2012 09:37 |  #5

Chrisrabior thanks for the advice my goal was not to under price the other guy it was to charge what the product was worth. they may not be the best posters in the world but It did take time to get the pictures and come up with poster idea so I figure I should try and make some money out of it instead of it being just a big practice.

Numenorean you have a lot of gear and your advice does not help why not post somthing that would help let me see some of your work give me a Idea tell me what you would change what good what bad. other wise shut up.

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May 15, 2012 10:04 |  #6

pbisfun wrote in post #14434664 (external link)
Numenorean you have a lot of gear and your advice does not help why not post somthing that would help let me see some of your work give me a Idea tell me what you would change what good what bad. other wise shut up.

^ That's not cool. Calm down a bit. He's just sharing his honest thoughts.

On another note, keep in mind who the target clients are: the parents! What I've come to realize is that we as photographers are definitely too critical of our work. Most parents might actually like the posters you have here. You should share it with one of the parents and see their reaction on it. If they love it, then leave it as it is and run with it.

Best of luck to you!


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May 15, 2012 10:22 |  #7

I don't think they're too bad but a few suggestions would be
1 - I like the font but drop the embossed and drop shadowed effect.
2 - Be careful what images you use. As a parent I wouldn't be interested in the poster on the right, showing my daughter having a huff during a game.


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May 15, 2012 10:24 |  #8

pbisfun wrote in post #14434664 (external link)
Numenorean you have a lot of gear and your advice does not help why not post somthing that would help let me see some of your work give me a Idea tell me what you would change what good what bad. other wise shut up.

You simply asked if your product was worth the money you are charging. I don't think it is and I told you that. If you didn't want to know that then why ask it in your post?

What's bad is everything. The text looks like you let a monkey loose with a copy of Photoshop and they figured out where the blending options were and managed to design some text that might have been cool in 1995. The photos themselves certainly do not look of sufficient professional quality that would be necessary to charge that much either.

For $40 for an 8x10 you will have to produce something exceptional. I don't know many parents that would pay that much for a single 8x10 for sports stuff - at least not around here.


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May 15, 2012 10:31 |  #9

I think the focus should be more on the images rather than the layout. Set yourself up a template so that every poster is the same. The sizes of fonts differ, I also don't really like the fonts, nor the embossing - that is purely personal though. Font selection is one of the hardest things to do.

I think you should make the large image the focus, bring that to the front, then have the smaller images in the background.

Like previously said, don't undercut - you will drive prices down and someone will eventually undercut you. Undercutting might get you business, but when someone undercuts you - that business will disappear. Quality is what you want, it doesn't matter how much someone undercuts you if you have a quality product.


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May 15, 2012 11:01 |  #10

The 'undercutting' language is so weird. Either the guy is producing a product that is as good as the pro in the area or he isn't. If he isn't, why shouldn't he charge less ? The ideal situation would be to be able to deliver as good a product or better than the pro and to charge accordingly. But until then, as he's developing, it totally makes sense to charge less.



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May 15, 2012 11:21 |  #11

The bevel and emboss text kills it for me. Also, $50 for the 20 x 30, but for something 7.5 times smaller, its only $10 cheaper?


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May 15, 2012 12:39 |  #12

Interesting comments....I don't think the posters are too bad for youth sports although it seems that a lot of people here really don't care for them. I much prefer the first layout...and with some better images, I think it would be a nice option for parents. I would love to see some examples of what people would consider as good or great youth sports posters.




  
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May 15, 2012 12:40 |  #13

I wouldn't pay that much for that poster, sorry. It's the whole dated concept that kills it for me.

What I WOULD pay 50 bucks for is a high quality image of my kid doing something exceptional, well lit, and exposed properly, in an action shot that I couldn't get myself (aka parents with cameras).

Here's an example of what I mean:

http://cdn.bleacherrep​ort.net …play_image.jpg?​1291986213 (external link)

In fact, I'd pay more for that. The key is to create images that the parents couldn't get otherwise, and sell them on that. While I'm aware that the image above is of professional athletes, there's no reason why you can't do similar stuff for your athletes.

You want to justify the cost? Don't resort to gimmicks like the poster. Let your images sell based on the quality, and the fact that they're unique enough that you can't get them from another photog.


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May 15, 2012 12:51 |  #14

Zansho wrote in post #14435437 (external link)
I wouldn't pay that much for that poster, sorry. It's the whole dated concept that kills it for me.

What I WOULD pay 50 bucks for is a high quality image of my kid doing something exceptional, well lit, and exposed properly, in an action shot that I couldn't get myself (aka parents with cameras).

Here's an example of what I mean:

http://cdn.bleacherrep​ort.net …play_image.jpg?​1291986213 (external link)

In fact, I'd pay more for that. The key is to create images that the parents couldn't get otherwise, and sell them on that. While I'm aware that the image above is of professional athletes, there's no reason why you can't do similar stuff for your athletes.

You want to justify the cost? Don't resort to gimmicks like the poster. Let your images sell based on the quality, and the fact that they're unique enough that you can't get them from another photog.

Totally agree.




  
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May 15, 2012 13:03 as a reply to  @ charro callado's post |  #15

I wouldnt pay $10, they're ghastly. The dated font, the washed out main photo with some poorly masked small photos looks terrible.

1. Have the main photo dominant, and awesome, and maybe fill in around it with smaller ones.

2. Learn to use masking correctly - its great when done properly, hideous when it isnt

3 - Mix it up a bit, show some creativity

4 - before you repeat the "Numenorean" comments and tell me to put up or shut up, try these for size:

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