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delko
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May 15, 2012 12:32 |  #1

Hey guys.
With a free photoshoot for a models portfolio. Say tfp or tfcd.... How many photographs do you guys ussualy give to the model?
If i shoot around 500-600 images with some as much as 3 duplicates per pose.
Is 100 photos too much?

Do you only give her your absolute best work? Or how do u ussualy do it? How much of the photos have been edited in photoshop?
And finally do u add or leave you watermank on the images?

Thank you .

I did some tfcd shoot and i just wana make sure im doing it the sam as every else.

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May 15, 2012 16:22 |  #2

Lol rather critisize me that this silence.
The point is to give the model quality? So rather 10 good photos than 100 almost good shots


I have done it wrong till now not quantity but quality?




  
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May 15, 2012 16:34 |  #3

Give them what you agreed upon before shooting.

It is very common to give less than 5 images. The best ones. Or one per outfit if they change a few times. Unless you are shooting for fun, giving 100 images is never a good idea. One reason is they allways seem to show the ones you hate. But it also devalues your work. It leaves nothing special about your work. The implied exclusivity if giving only 4 (or so) images will make them seem that much more special to them. But they have to be the best. You cant give a few that are only OK. They have to be the best of the lot.

Most models know this. and many only expect 1 or 2 final images. No matter how many are taken at the shoot. If they can add one killer image to their port they are happy.

Its also the same as the advice that you shouldent have to many images in your port. You love all your images and want the world to see. But it is MUCH better to have them want to see more of your work when they get to the end of your gallery, then it is to have them become bored with your work half way through.


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May 16, 2012 00:27 |  #4

I asume the 10 photos have been edited then?




  
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May 16, 2012 05:30 as a reply to  @ delko's post |  #5

I usually give up to 5 images to a model following a test shoot (TFP). I only give edited images.

I agree that, if a model gets one or 2 shots for their portfolio then it has been a good shoot.


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May 16, 2012 16:07 |  #6

delko wrote in post #14438734 (external link)
I asume the 10 photos have been edited then?

Do you really want her showing off your work unedited?


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May 17, 2012 05:53 |  #7

One more question.
I have started the thread to learn. Thats why i am on the forum and to contribute.
If i should read a simmiliar threead first pleast refer me.
But ussualy editing photos of a model.
What does it include?
Im working on Cs5.

Color balance?
Hue and saturation?
Curves? And levels?
Duplication face with gausian blur on a new later?
Enhace sharpness of eyes?
Sharpness and contrast?
Brightness and exposure?

I know its imposoble to say coz each photos process will be different.
And i obviously need to read books first.
If someone can maybe just tell what i shouldnt do to the photos?

Hope its posible to guide me in the right direction?

Thank you

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May 17, 2012 06:06 |  #8

For me I edit the image the way I would like it to be and how I would want everyone to see it. Limitations are only within the final product. Just my 2 cents.


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May 17, 2012 09:35 |  #9

You are right. Every one will be different. At times even frame to frame of the same shoot.

My TF is almost exclusively personal work. So I shoot and edit it in my vision. There is no one to hand them off to to make happy. So there are times that every frame gets edited in a different way. I let the image tell me how it wants to be edited. If that makes any sense. So there is no list of things I can say needs to be worked on. It all depends. Your list is a great starting point. But if any of them happen to be exactly how you want it from the camera, obviously you can leave it off the edit list.

Post Processing instructors commonly say, edit the biggest change needed first. Then move down to smaller things. Stop when you can sit back and nothing sticks out as a problem any more. As it is very easy to over edit.

Things not to do.... that is even harder as we dont know what your vision of the image is. But with out a doubt NEVER do a selective color edit.


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May 17, 2012 10:53 |  #10

I usually give them 5 fully edited images.
However, I usually edit more than 5 and let them have them for their portfolio.


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May 17, 2012 10:58 |  #11

delko wrote in post #14444647 (external link)
One more question.
I have started the thread to learn. Thats why i am on the forum and to contribute.
If i should read a simmiliar threead first pleast refer me.
But ussualy editing photos of a model.
What does it include?
Im working on Cs5.

Color balance?
Hue and saturation?
Curves? And levels?
Duplication face with gausian blur on a new later?
Enhace sharpness of eyes?
Sharpness and contrast?
Brightness and exposure?

I know its imposoble to say coz each photos process will be different.
And i obviously need to read books first.
If someone can maybe just tell what i shouldnt do to the photos?

Hope its posible to guide me in the right direction?

Thank you

:)

You should process the photos as you see fit. If the model agrees to work with you based on what she's seen of your work, you should try to provide similar work. Based on your questions about photoshop, I'm guessing you dont have a lot of experience. In that case go easy with the processing until you get some experience as badly retouched images are almost always worse than un-retouched images.




  
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May 17, 2012 13:36 |  #12

Mark1 wrote in post #14445397 (external link)
Things not to do.... that is even harder as we dont know what your vision of the image is. But with out a doubt NEVER do a selective color edit.

Can you explain selective color edit?

Is that adjusting the color balance of the image?

I am an totally rookie... Correct ...
Most of my tfcd shoots is either a lady friend or a potential model in the future. Few of them can pose correctly without my help. They need help with hand placements and so on. Im
Not trying to judge them... They are doing me a huge favour....

Yeah i got a few tips in photoshop but honestly i think im doing it wrong....

Overediting....




  
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May 17, 2012 13:46 |  #13

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First one .
Changed color od dress played with saturation.
What bothers me is the color where her skin changes it is visible above the elbow and below the sholder....

Second pic.
Increased saturation .
Aplied a layer of her lips which is more saturated. So it apears if she wore more makup.

Pleasee critic hard. And if u think these work i crap please tell me hom i can chance it ... I know i need to step up my game thanx



  
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May 17, 2012 14:43 |  #14

delko wrote in post #14446491 (external link)
Can you explain selective color edit?

Is that adjusting the color balance of the image?

I am an totally rookie... Correct ...
Most of my tfcd shoots is either a lady friend or a potential model in the future. Few of them can pose correctly without my help. They need help with hand placements and so on. Im
Not trying to judge them... They are doing me a huge favour....

Yeah i got a few tips in photoshop but honestly i think im doing it wrong....

Overediting....

Selective color is where you make the image black and white except for a small part that you leave in color. Its the first trick most of us learn when we figure out how to do layers and masking in photoshop. It seems so cool, but its not. I think your best be is to get on youtube and search for photoshop tutorials. You can learn how to do some interesting things.




  
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May 17, 2012 15:20 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #15

She has great eyes!


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