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Jun 06, 2012 18:41 |  #16

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Great shoots! Yeah I'm debating if I should get another 600ex-rt or the St-e3

This image http://www.flickr.com …155181215/in/ph​otostream/ (external link) I took using two Canon 600EX-RTs. One mounted on a stand/umbrella AND the other one is on camera (flash disable)

The flash on camera acts the same as the ST-E3, but the downside is adding more weight overall plus I was using 70-200 II, 5D III/Grip. If you don't mind to carry an extra pound then it is really worthy to get a second 600EX-RT flash....


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Jun 06, 2012 21:36 |  #17

When I bought my 600EX-RT speedlights I knew I wanted to buy at least three right away and not get the ST-E3. Not only could the photo store employees not get the ST-E3 to trigger any of the 600EX-RT units, there's no focus-assist beam on the ST-E3, a feature I depend on when using OCF in dark reception halls. What I like about the 600EX-RT is how easy it is to disable the on-camera flash from firing so you can just use it as a trigger only, but with ETTL (if you want to) and focus-assist ability.


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Jun 07, 2012 05:41 |  #18

The 5DIII's low light AF ability is nearly as good as the IR AF assist beam...so i guess it's not as important as it used to be.


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Jun 07, 2012 17:57 |  #19

Myduc1098 wrote in post #14541904 (external link)
This image http://www.flickr.com …155181215/in/ph​otostream/ (external link) I took using two Canon 600EX-RTs. One mounted on a stand/umbrella AND the other one is on camera (flash disable)

The flash on camera acts the same as the ST-E3, but the downside is adding more weight overall plus I was using 70-200 II, 5D III/Grip. If you don't mind to carry an extra pound then it is really worthy to get a second 600EX-RT flash....

That photo is private. I want to check out that photo.

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Jun 07, 2012 18:17 as a reply to  @ julius071's post |  #20

If your going to buy PW's or RP's then why not just buy more 580exII's? The biggest upgrade/cost increase for the 600's is the fact that they have built in radio systems..... If your going to get separate triggers anyway and not use the biggest reason for going from a 580 to a 600 then why not save the money and just get more 580's. I just purchased some 600's because it's one less thing to worry about in the middle of a wedding by not having to use triggers now. I loved my 580's and RP's but its so quick and easy to just set two 600's on stands, one on camera, and turn them all on. Although if I bought triggers all over again I think I would go PW's as they are much more versatile for expanding down the road.

I would personally just get a second 600 to use as it would work for on camera fill or as a back up if needed. Just my opinion, never easy deciding what to buy lol.


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Jun 07, 2012 19:09 |  #21

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If your going to buy PW's or RP's then why not just buy more 580exII's? The biggest upgrade/cost increase for the 600's is the fact that they have built in radio systems..... If your going to get separate triggers anyway and not use the biggest reason for going from a 580 to a 600 then why not save the money and just get more 580's. I just purchased some 600's because it's one less thing to worry about in the middle of a wedding by not having to use triggers now. I loved my 580's and RP's but its so quick and easy to just set two 600's on stands, one on camera, and turn them all on. Although if I bought triggers all over again I think I would go PW's as they are much more versatile for expanding down the road.

I would personally just get a second 600 to use as it would work for on camera fill or as a back up if needed. Just my opinion, never easy deciding what to buy lol.

Are you going to get an ST-E3? Or just run with the 3 x 600's?


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Jun 07, 2012 19:34 |  #22

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Are you going to get an ST-E3? Or just run with the 3 x 600's?

Right now I use 3x600's. Eventually I will pick up a 4th as a backup but it will most likely stay in my bag. Not sure the exact numbers but the ST-E3 is a little more then half the cost of a 600EX-RT. So for about 40-45% off the cost of a 600 you get triggering capability but no flash, no AF assist, no backup, etc. Personally, i'll happily spend the extra as I view it as a value at that point. Why not sell your 580 to help fund your second 600 and then build on that in the future? Just a thought.

I just did my first wedding with the 600's instead of the 580's + RP's. I was hesitant about what I had spent to upgrade but I loved it. Controlling the off camera flashes was so easy and simple and I didn't have to worry about triggers. The RP's mount with a little foam O-ring on your slaves that seems to slide a little even without touching the flashes over time. Once the O-ring blocks the sensor I would have to take the flash off the stand, unmount the 580, move the foam O-ring, remount, put back on the stand. For me personally, in the middle of a reception, that was very frustrating. Now I throw them up on stands and they just work. I really found it useful using the ETTL on my on camera flash and the manual on my off-camera flashes. I think that only works with the 5D mark III or 1DX though. Hope this helps.


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Jun 08, 2012 13:40 |  #23

julius071 wrote in post #14546857 (external link)
That photo is private. I want to check out that photo.

Thanks,

Try to click on this http://www.flickr.com …/in/set-72157630055307014 (external link) again, it should be ok now.

I don't know why my Flicker account set "privacy" as default on every new pictures I upload. I will look into that.


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Jun 08, 2012 17:31 |  #24

Before I go buy a couple of 600's, I just wanted to ask if it's possible to use BOTH on camera 600 and use the other as a back light at the same time. Or do you have to turn the flash output from the one on the cam off. Thanks.


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Jun 08, 2012 19:44 |  #25

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Before I go buy a couple of 600's, I just wanted to ask if it's possible to use BOTH on camera 600 and use the other as a back light at the same time. Or do you have to turn the flash output from the one on the cam off. Thanks.

If I understand your question, yes, you can use a 600 on-camera and have it fire as strongly or as weakly (or not at all) as you want. You can do this while using an additional 600 off-camera. Just think of the 600EX-RT as a 580EXII with a built in PW TT5 unit, except that it will always work.


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Jun 08, 2012 20:06 |  #26

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If I understand your question, yes, you can use a 600 on-camera and have it fire as strongly or as weakly (or not at all) as you want. You can do this while using an additional 600 off-camera. Just think of the 600EX-RT as a 580EXII with a built in PW TT5 unit, except that it will always work.

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Jun 23, 2012 03:41 |  #27

Didn't wanna start a new thread, but can somebody plz tell me why the 600 has c.fn 0-13 and 20-23 only? Where are the c.fn settings 14-19?!? Why is there a gap?


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