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May 18, 2012 14:53 |  #1

Hi, I will be shooting a wedding next weekend and the bride wants to have live video of the guests coming into the reception hall, relaying back to a projector in a room that is 200+ feet away...

I've been doing some research on some possible ways to do this and haven't come across much...

The guests will be watching the projector screen in the room as people are walking into the hall, and I will be capturing them coming in.

Would I have to buy a very long HDMI cable to interact with the projector?
Is there a wireless method to transfer the live video from my 7D to the projector?
I will also be using a smallHD DP4 field monitor for reference.

I am totally new to this and need some help.

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May 18, 2012 16:39 |  #2

200+ feet?! I dont think even daisy chaining active HDMI amplifiers you can get that far...


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May 18, 2012 16:58 |  #3

yeah, that's a tough one. You might be better off using a separate camcorder for the live feed


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May 18, 2012 17:14 |  #4

GeminiZ wrote in post #14451862 (external link)
Hi, I will be shooting a wedding next weekend and the bride wants to have live video of the guests coming into the reception hall, relaying back to a projector in a room that is 200+ feet away...



The only practical way to do this, practical meaning you would like to spend less than a grand, would be to rent or otherwise obtain a camcorder set it on a tripod and wire its video output to the projectors video input.

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May 18, 2012 17:21 |  #5

GeminiZ wrote in post #14451862 (external link)
Would I have to buy a very long HDMI cable to interact with the projector?

You could go wireless. ;-)a

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …HDMI_Encoder_De​coder.html (external link)

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May 18, 2012 18:11 |  #6

Ive done this before, but not using a 7D.... I think it was a sony V1U. But we ran it through the internal phone line network. Not sure how that worked but the IT guys had this AUX-phone jack plug and it worked well. We ended up showing a live feed in 4 different rooms at once.


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May 18, 2012 18:20 |  #7

This is simple, but not easy. How much money do you have?

http://www.gefen.com/k​vm/dproduct.jsp?prod_i​d=8081 (external link) $600
http://www.gefen.com/k​vm/dproduct.jsp?prod_i​d=8475 (external link) $300

Make sure all the devices are on the same power source, or you will have ground loop issues. There are ways to fix grounding issues, but its easier not to have them in the first place.

There a cheap solution that ay or may not work, but for a one time event, why risk it.

The simplest solution, hire an AV company to setup the link and just walk in and plug in your camera.


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May 18, 2012 19:35 |  #8

Channel One wrote in post #14452319 (external link)
The only practical way to do this, practical meaning you would like to spend less than a grand, would be to rent or otherwise obtain a camcorder set it on a tripod and wire its video output to the projectors video input.

Wayne


Could this not be done the same way for the 7D in terms of wiring the output of the field monitor back into the projector's input using this?
http://www.smallhd.com …I-Loop-through-Splitter_2 (external link)

I'm just thinking in terms of how long of a cord I would have to use, or find a wireless transmitter to connect both sources through the splitter's secondary source output.


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May 18, 2012 19:37 |  #9

If only I had the cash... :rolleyes:


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May 18, 2012 21:58 |  #10

Your SmallHD monitor already has a HDMI output, so you will not need a splitter. There are consumer wireless HDMIs for less than $200, but they have ranges of 25-100 feet. You will need to confirm personally if any can go to 200 feet. Teradek's have the range but are very expensive http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …HDMI_Encoder_De​coder.html (external link)

A camcorder on a tripod using a composite video cable can easily send a signal 200' but will not be HD quality.


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May 19, 2012 03:27 |  #11

The Teradek Cube will be stretched to work properly at 200 feet. I work with one all the time and there are a couple small issues with them.

The first is range. While the engineers from Teradek claim that the Cube can be stretched to around 300 feet, that was only done in a engineer controlled, line of sight test under optimal conditions. If there are other WiFi sources in the general area then the range is limited at best. When we use one, sometimes the producer can hold the iPad2 and be several rooms in a house away from the Tx unit which is attached to the camera. Sometimes not. It works fairly well passing through a few walls, but I have never seen it work effectively at anything more than 50 feet, line of sight.

The other thing some people have an issue with is that the feed isn't exactly real time. There is a true, 1/4 second delay. In the situation the OP wants to use such a device that wouldn't really matter so much, but I have seen the delay be a lot longer if the unit isn't set up properly.

And as it was stated above, they aren't that super cheap. Yes they are more cost effective, smaller and lighter than some of the other HD video transmitters out there, but $1200 or so isn't cheap for a lot of folks.

Also, the out put of the 7D isn't a true HD signal when you take it out either of the video out ports. That is really just for reference. Again, that might not matter to the OP, but something to think about.

A decend camcorder on a tripod and a long video cable might be cheaper route. But at that distance you might need a signal booster in line. Wayne might know the answer to that one.


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May 19, 2012 18:35 |  #12

ChasWG wrote in post #14454004 (external link)
A decend camcorder on a tripod and a long video cable might be cheaper route. But at that distance you might need a signal booster in line. Wayne might know the answer to that one.

A standard 1 volt P2P 4.5 mHz video signal can be pushed down about 1200 feet of RG 59 without the need for regeneration.

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May 20, 2012 23:30 |  #13

Alright all, thanks for all the information.

I'll try something out and hopefully make it work.


Thanks for the tips and links.


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May 21, 2012 00:49 |  #14

Is HD a requirement or not? If not, the answer is clear I think.


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May 21, 2012 13:22 |  #15

Well, seeing as that this is going to be recorded as well, in HD format, and my company only offers HD services with video, it is required.

EDIT: Just spoke with the client and she said if there are no other options, she is willing to use Standard video for the live footage.

I guess the solution now is finding a really good cable to connect to my Sony Cam to the projector.

This is what I have:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …170_3_CCD_Mini_​DVCAM.html (external link)

Any suggestions?(Sorry, totally new to this streaming concept.)


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