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60d vs 7d for amatur mom

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May 23, 2012 11:36 |  #16

The 7D is an all around winner. Weight wise, I'm not a big R strap fan, you can do the same with the POTN strap over one shoulder and across the chest. I think it has more stability. Reallt, any strap that can be extended is fine as long as the shoulder pad is thick.

There is no sense in buying old technology, and then feeling remorse. Handle your instructors camera some more and get a sense of its features.
Both are excellent choices, and it's a tradeoff of more features, faster speed and weight. And dollars.

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May 23, 2012 11:44 |  #17

I have the 60D and think the swivel screen is the best feature of the camera. I don't really miss the joystick of my 50D, so that was not a loss for me. As far as image quality goes, if two images were taken at same settings, etc with the 7D and the 60D you would not be able to tell the difference. I know for a fact that I did tests of the 300D, XSI, and 50D, and at up to 16x20 I could not tell the difference.

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May 23, 2012 11:51 as a reply to  @ jtack's post |  #18

60D... put the money saved toward a 430 or 580 flash.

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May 23, 2012 13:43 |  #19

Most other comments are about a body so I am going the lens route. If you think the 24-105 is large then you should try a 70-200mm f/2.8 IS lens or one of the larger primes. The 24-105 is my walk around/general purpose lens and highly recommended for that purpose.

I photograph children in my family and for friends. I strongly recommend a lens that zooms to at least 200mm for children whether in the yard, playground or youth sports. A lens up to 200mm is great for youth soccer and infield shots when using smaller baseball or softball fields , 200mm is too short for outfield shots. The Canon 55-250mm lens is the real value in that range. You would love any version of the 70-200mm lenses that are available. A f/2.8 lens is great but don't expect it to be fast enough for late afternoon or at night. Lighting for most recreation fields is usually very poor.

I often take a smaller P and S camera for travel. My gripped 50D with the 24-105 lens is not pocket friendly. I purchased a Canon 18-200mm superzoom for my nephew to use on his XSi around the house and also for family vacations, it never leaves his camera. The size of that combination is great for travel. It is extremely convenient and the photos are much better than some people would have you believe.

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May 23, 2012 13:58 |  #20

Do you REALLY need all of the extra features of the 7d vs the 60d? That's what you're paying extra for. I wanted a 7d pretty bad until I got real with myself about what I shoot. So do you really need the extra features of the 7d?
CLP will save you a nice bit of money on a camera body.

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May 23, 2012 15:24 |  #21

It was actually a very simple decision process for me when I wanted to upgrade from the XSi/450D.

60D - swivel LCD
7D - no swivel LCD

60D wins!


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May 23, 2012 15:44 |  #22

They're both great cameras, so just get the one you think you'd enjoy the most. I opted for the 7D (came from a much-loved 40D) because the size and control layout is similar to the 40D, because of the AF system (which isn't confusing at all - it's just amazing), and because it feels like a camera I can keep for many years. But if you're more comfortable with a smaller camera, get the 60D. Don't worry about what other people have - just buy what seems best for you. There's no point getting a bigger, heavier camera if you're not going to be comfortable with it.

Best of luck with your choice. It's not easy these days: there are so many options out there!

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May 23, 2012 15:45 |  #23

I've had my 60D for 1.5 years and I love it! It fits my medium size hands perfectly, while the 7D is a little too large. The swivel screen is great for low angles (small kids) and high angles (shooting over crowds). Also, I've been very successful at shooting sports with my 60D. Finally, the 60D has essentially the same wireless flash controller as the 7D, and it works extremely well within the range specified by Canon. I have no desire to have a 7D, as the 60D suits me perfectly. That said, if you really want the 7D, get it, as it is also a great camera.

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May 23, 2012 15:49 |  #24

I would wait for the 70D too.

if you still have the XTI, stick with it for awhile while learning photography.

If the rumors are true about full auto in video and live view shooting plus the AF of the current 7D , 100% viewfinder with grid.... i couldn't wait.

I'm wondering what the Digic5 can bring to the 70D too, maybe a higher FPS since it's faster than Digic4?

oh and for kids? the swivel screen is a must, for me.

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May 23, 2012 17:17 |  #25

I just went through the same process myself. Upgrading from my trusty XSi. As has been mentioned above. My advise is go to BB or a local camera shop and handle both. Read up on other opinions here on POTN and around the net. Decide what exactly you want to do with the camera and pull the trigger. I used the CLP for my 7D and it is a great deal. My regret is I waited to long to pull the trigger and missed a lot of quality time with my 7D!

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May 23, 2012 17:20 |  #26

go with the one that has the features that are most important to what you will be shooting. For me, if I were to buy a backup body to my 5D3, I would buy one with a swivel screen. There are many times where I'm shooting low to the ground or at weird angles where being able to see the screen to compose my shot in live view would be so much easier if I had a swivel screen. But, if you never find yourself shooting in those situations, it wouldn't make much sense to you whether the camera had one or not. Only you know what you need, so you need to look at the features of each camera and figure out which is important to you.

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May 23, 2012 18:17 as a reply to  @ tagnal's post |  #27

As others have said, handle both cameras first. No matter how good it is or how many bells and whistles, you will not enjoy shooting if you hate the camera in use. The 60D is capable of doing what you need, the 7D is just a little MORE capable for action, which is the reason I bought it. The AF system can take some time to learn but since you are taking a class you are obviously not afraid of taking the time to understand it. Believe me, if I can learn it then anyone can. The 7D's AF system will future-proof you more than the one on the 60D which is one of your criteria. Either way you will not end up with a bad camera, just pick the one that you can easily handle.

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May 23, 2012 18:38 |  #28

I'll take the minority view and recommend the 60D. I own a T2i and a 7D, and I wish I had bought a 60d instead of the 7D. What's that, you say? Well, I use my cameras more for video than stills, and with Magic Lantern, even the T2i leaves the 7D in the dust in the video realm.

Other points to consider:
- When I load my 7D up with a largish lens like the 17-55mm IS, a 580EX flash, Zacuto viewfinder and tripod quick release, it's HEAVY. Granted, you probably won't burden yours to the same extent, but weight is definitely something to consider, if as you say, you intend to use it for day-long excursions.
- The newer Canons (T2i, 60D and later) have higher resolution LCDs than the 7D. It's noticeable.
- The 7D optical viewfinder is larger (by a couple percent) and brighter than the 60D. One point for the 7D.
- I have small hands, and the legendary back button focus is awkward for me - I have to crook my thumb at an odd angle to reach the AF ON button. Definitely try the two cameras out for hand placement before you buy.
- when shooting video, I OFTEN wish I had an articulating screen. It's not merely a gimmick, it's genuinely useful.

That said, however, I'm sure you'll be happy with either camera. They're both a major step up from your current kit.​/ (external link)

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May 23, 2012 18:48 as a reply to  @ Snafoo's post |  #29

i want them all
550D small and lightweight
600D easy to use
60D long battery life
7D fast focus

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May 23, 2012 19:45 |  #30

hubcaps wrote in post #14473563 (external link)
Get the 60d and invest in better a better lens or lenses and a flash.


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