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May 26, 2012 15:26 |  #1

I just bought myself a 100-400mm lense and headed off down the coast on a rainy morning.
Thought of taking my new "baby" out for a test as I previously spotted a Heron in a dam en route to our destination, but thought against it due to rain etc ..
As luck would have it, not only was the light perfect at the dam, the Heron stood proudly, when searching the banks a Pied KIngfisher was not more than 15 yards from me .
Frustrated, I climbed back into the car and headed away from the dam, only to encounter a Kestrel enjoying breakfast, and to cap it all, spotted 2 hawks (I am searching Google for verification) ... What a day it could have been !!!!
Going to try my luck tomorrow, hopefully luck will be on my side ...


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May 26, 2012 16:07 |  #2

Heh! Sorry about that! Hopefully next time you'll be "packing" (your photo gear that is):)!


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May 26, 2012 16:23 |  #3

Let that be a lesson to you! LOL
I believe this has probably happened to us all, at one time or another. It's gotten so I rarely step outside the house without the camera.
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May 26, 2012 16:27 |  #4

This is the reason I have started to bring my camera everywhere. Although I still seem to miss the great opportunities.


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May 26, 2012 18:18 |  #5

Get your gear a rain coat - seriously.

Some of the best photographs happen in the worst weather.


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May 26, 2012 23:37 as a reply to  @ Kevin Hall's post |  #6

ive actually considered buying an SX 40 for this reason.
that way I can always have a camera on me with a big zoom.

i know the IQ wont be quite as good, but it will be better than not getting the shot.

I have "missed" hundreds of great shots over the last year because I didnt bring my gear.



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May 27, 2012 13:26 |  #7

markisclueless wrote in post #14488454 (external link)
I just bought myself a 100-400mm lense and headed off down the coast on a rainy morning.
Thought of taking my new "baby" out for a test as I previously spotted a Heron in a dam en route to our destination, but thought against it due to rain etc ..
As luck would have it, not only was the light perfect at the dam, the Heron stood proudly, when searching the banks a Pied KIngfisher was not more than 15 yards from me .
Frustrated, I climbed back into the car and headed away from the dam, only to encounter a Kestrel enjoying breakfast, and to cap it all, spotted 2 hawks (I am searching Google for verification) ... What a day it could have been !!!!
Going to try my luck tomorrow, hopefully luck will be on my side ...

Thanks all, sound advise taken to heart ... Well today went okay but of course not as good as yesterday, first time I used a "serious" lense and what can I say except WOW !!
Okay, still only been shooting for a short while so learning so much from you guys (and girls) on this forum, the other feathered friend from yesterday was the Pied Kingfisher (3 of them) and managed to get a "decent" pic - just managing to hand hold the monster lense ... would appreciate any advise on how to improve the IQ and composition (should have set my Monopod up but the birds were seriously nervous ...)


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May 27, 2012 17:05 |  #8

When I take friends to a nearby small nature park for the first time I leave my camera at home. I've found it practially ensures I'll see something really neat to show them.


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May 27, 2012 17:33 |  #9

jhayesvw wrote in post #14490058 (external link)
ive actually considered buying an SX 40 for this reason. that way I can always have a camera on me with a big zoom. i know the IQ wont be quite as good, but it will be better than not getting the shot....

The SX40 is a great carry-around birding camera and I always carry it even when driving to the supermarket, like yesterday when I spotted this wild turkey playing chicken with cars on the highway.

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May 27, 2012 23:09 |  #10

I took my gear today in the boat but didn't get it out. I missed some Hawks, low flyin cranes and buzzards.

Wanted it out but the wind was crazy strong. We had stopped at a sandy point to spend the day and with the gust blowing sand and dust everywhere I just decided to leave the gear in the cabin.




  
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May 29, 2012 02:25 |  #11

okay, so I have realised that my pic above is crappy and rather embarrassing ...
Have searched the various threads and have come up with the following errors:
- Did not use CENTRE AF point - the "red" square is not on either Kingfisher - will correct setting.
- Not close enough to subject, problem is that it is a protected reserve and hence cannot enter, so I guess I will need to get as close as possible from other side of fence...
- Did not use my monopod - it was handheld it a strong wind ...

I used AI Servo mode with continuous shooting - guess I could have tried One Shot as they were "perched .... I normally shoot using SS priority to get clarity, but think I should set up a CUTOM setting, so it is a click away when encountering a chance spotting ...

What settings are generally used when birding - please specify BIF or "perched"/stationary (I will post the settings for above pic later after work so I can spot my errors)

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May 29, 2012 03:45 as a reply to  @ markisclueless's post |  #12

I use the same settings for perched birds or BIF's. AI Servo, center point focus dot, continuous shooting...I like to keep it basic so I don't have to change any camera settings when/if something happens like if the bird takes off. I shoot in manual mode 100% of the time and use a tripod for support. I try to use the light to my advantage and keep the sun over my shoulder or back...I rarely shoot with the sun in front of me or to the side.


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May 29, 2012 06:04 |  #13

Duane N wrote in post #14499011 (external link)
I use the same settings for perched birds or BIF's. AI Servo, center point focus dot, continuous shooting...I like to keep it basic so I don't have to change any camera settings when/if something happens like if the bird takes off. I shoot in manual mode 100% of the time and use a tripod for support. I try to use the light to my advantage and keep the sun over my shoulder or back...I rarely shoot with the sun in front of me or to the side.

thanks ... I am not good enough to shoot in manual mode yet, so use AF but control my SS which is high for clarity, I am however concerned that this negatively affects my aperture and hence DOF ...

I might be way off the mark but what range should I work on for best results :
SS between xx - yy
Aperture between xx - yy
ISO between xx - yy
I know these are all dependant on BIF / perched, light conditions etc but would like some tips so when practicing I can narrow the variables down ... thanks


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May 29, 2012 06:25 |  #14

okay, read another thread on this AWESOME forum and gladly found that I am doing a few things right (such as Spot Metering / centre AF point / AI servo) ..
What I normally do is us Tv (shutter priority) and keep that at 1/1250, but feel I should be shooting using Av (aperture priority) and controlling the ISO to get the SS high enough .. am I on the right track (if yes, what Aperture is best for 100-400mm to get best feather clarity ?)


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May 29, 2012 06:42 |  #15

thinking as follows with regard to best Aperture for feather clarity/sharpness
1) Poor light - set AV to f8 and then increasing the ISO (try to limit to 1600) to increase SS
2) Good light - set AV to f5.6 and then increasing the ISO to increase SS

Maybe I should buy a "fake" bird and take pictures of it - then I might get some clarity and sharpness :rolleyes:


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