It's Already 2AM: 29th Edition... Time for Tony to bring out his Whacktacular Weapons

jdizzle wrote in post #14503025
Does that mean I don't know what I'm doing?:p It works for what I do.

No it does not reflect on you, I was asking to learn why, I might be missing something for following an old rule of thumb, on ss vs focal length.

Hiyo bros

jdizzle wrote in post #14503020
Whatever. Your 1 second was blurry.

Yeah well it was 1 sec. Don't exspect to much

tonyniev wrote in post #14503040
No it does not reflect on you, I was asking to learn why, I might be missing something for following an old rule of thumb, on ss vs focal length.

Well that's all it is, a rule of thumb. It's a starting point for people who aren't sure. The more you shoot you can figure out what works for you and what doesn't. I'm sure there are some people who have to shoot faster than 1/focal length. It's all dependent on the person.

It really just comes down to, if it works, do it.


It certainly is a good idea to work on handholding at slower shutter speeds for Julian's Grand Central Station example. It gives you more flexibility even without a tripod.

tonyniev wrote in post #14503040
No it does not reflect on you, I was asking to learn why, I might be missing something for following an old rule of thumb, on ss vs focal length.

That's the thing Tony. I don't follow any rules.

I even made a post about the 70-200 II when I first got it to test the IS to it's max capabilities. Most were very appreciative with the results. Even one poster had a pan of 1/8 sec with IS mode 2.
https://photography-on-the.net …hp?p=9877067&po​stcount=35


https://photography-on-the.net …hlight=canon+70​-200+MK+II

laxlife1234 wrote in post #14503045
Hiyo bros

hi Jake-E.

Fricks wrote in post #14503062
Yeah well it was 1 sec. Don't exspect to much

*sigh* wrote in post #14503064
Well that's all it is, a rule of thumb. It's a starting point for people who aren't sure. The more you shoot you can figure out what works for you and what doesn't. I'm sure there are some people who have to shoot faster than 1/focal length. It's all dependent on the person.

It really just comes down to, if it works, do it.


It certainly is a good idea to work on handholding at slower shutter speeds for Julian's Grand Central Station example. It gives you more flexibility even without a tripod.

I have no problem pushing the limits of my gear even with the aid of IS/VR. It's a life saver for certain things I shoot but, I don't rely on it most of the time.

jdizzle wrote in post #14503066
That's the thing Tony. I don't follow any rules.

I even made a post about the 70-200 II when I first got it to test the IS to it's max capabilities. Most were very appreciative with the results. Even one poster had a pan of 1/8 sec with IS mode 2.
https://photography-on-the.net …hp?p=9877067&po​stcount=35


https://photography-on-the.net …hlight=canon+70​-200+MK+II

Oh how I so want a 70-200 f2.8 IS II....

I mean the F4 IS is a dang good lens... but still!

*sigh* wrote in post #14503064
Well that's all it is, a rule of thumb. It's a starting point for people who aren't sure. The more you shoot you can figure out what works for you and what doesn't. I'm sure there are some people who have to shoot faster than 1/focal length. It's all dependent on the person.

It really just comes down to, if it works, do it.


It certainly is a good idea to work on handholding at slower shutter speeds for Julian's Grand Central Station example. It gives you more flexibility even without a tripod.

I disagree and to one each own techniques, Julian's Grand central shot was at a very low iso...he can have faster ss at higher iso and even lower F stop, maybe an F7.1 or even 6.2 will give enough depth of field to be able to read the train schedule vs unintelligible sign with motion blur...again this is my opinion.

Here you go Tony. This was shot indoors with the 70-200 VR II. I had a SS 1/160, ISO 800, f2.8.

http://www.darklightim​aging.com/img/s3/v43/p​784741388-5.jpg

jdizzle wrote in post #14503075
I have no problem pushing the limits of my gear even with the aid of IS/VR. It's a life saver for certain things I shoot but, I don't rely on it most of the time.

Yeah, it just offers more flexibility. I wouldn't be shooting everyday at the lowest SS possible, but it certainly never hurts to push the limits when you have a chance and see exactly where your limits are.

If you find out you can hold steady at 1/125th instead of 1/250th, that's one extra stop of light you now have to play with (assuming your subject isn't flapping around.)

tonyniev wrote in post #14503084
I disagree and to one each own techniques, Julian's Grand central shot was at a very low iso...he can have faster ss at higher iso and even lower F stop, maybe an F7.1 or even 6.2 will give enough depth of field to be able to read the train schedule vs unintelligible sign with motion blur...again this is my opinion.

But that wasn't the point of that shot. The low SS was to give a sense of motion, not to be able to shoot at a lower ISO.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with sticking to that rule of thumb. But there is nothing wrong with not.

tonyniev wrote in post #14503084
I disagree and to one each own techniques, Julian's Grand central shot was at a very low iso...he can have faster ss at higher iso and even lower F stop, maybe an F7.1 or even 6.2 will give enough depth of field to be able to read the train schedule vs unintelligible sign with motion blur...again this is my opinion.

That's fine but, I got the shot without issue and the 1Ds III is a heavy camera. Also, it turned out well in print.

*sigh* wrote in post #14503093
Yeah, it just offers more flexibility. I wouldn't be shooting everyday at the lowest SS possible, but it certainly never hurts to push the limits when you have a chance and see exactly where your limits are.

If you find out you can hold steady at 1/125th instead of 1/250th, that's one extra stop of light you now have to play with (assuming your subject isn't flapping around.)

I agree. Although, if I didn't get the shot the first time then I readjust my setting to get a faster SS. It's not a big deal imo.

jdizzle wrote in post #14503109
I agree. Although, if I didn't get the shot the first time then I readjust my setting to get a faster SS. It's not a big deal imo.

Trial and error.

I guess I'm just used to pushing my SS low, partially out of necessity since well the 7D isn't exactly a high ISO king.


My slow SS handheld shooting could certainly use some improvement though.

jdizzle wrote in post #14503075
hi Jake-E.

Wassup, Julian! Hows that Nikon being treated?