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KenjiS wrote in post #14626319
Well posting it in a THIRD thread wont be so bad:

So lets do some math:

This is what Id likely jump for going to Nikon

D800
Nikon 16-35 VR
Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 VR II
Nikon 28mm f/1.8G
Nikon 50mm f/1.8G
Nikon 105mm f/2.8 VR Micro-Nikkor
Nikon TC-20E III
Nikon SB-910 Speedlight
Nikon R1 Macro Speedlight

$9851, My Canon gear is worth around $4000 last i checked, giving me an out of pocket cost of $5851 to make the switch and replace what i have

Now, if i stay Canon, Lets consider the costs of adding the following to my system:

5D Mark III
Canon 17-40 f/4L
Canon 300mm f/4L IS

Which nets me this following system:

5DIII
Canon 17-40 f/4L
Canon 70-200 f/4L IS USM
Canon 28mm f/1.8 USM
Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM
Canon 100mm f/2.8L IS Macro
Canon 300mm f/4L IS USM
Kenko 1.4x DGX Teleconverter
Canon 580EX II
Sigma EM-140 DG Macro Speedlight

$5637, Selling my 7D, 15-85 and 35mm f/2 would likely net me around about $2000 (I think) making my out of pocket around $3637, saving me $2,214 over the Nikon above

I concede, the Nikon system up there has a 70-200 f/2.8 versus my f/4, But personally I'd rather save the weight, the Canon system is lighter I believe (the 17-40 is lighter/smaller than the 16-35, the 70-200 and 300 are lighter than the 70-200 f/2.8 individually..) The Nikon 300mm f/4 lacks VR which meant it was out of the running automatically, and beyond that would have left me a void which the 70-200 f/2.8 would have had to fill anyways, I picked the Nikon TC over a Kenko because in this instance I feel the extra cost might be justified as its a 2x TC and the D800 is a bit of a resolution hog corner to corner...

Even if i went apples to apples(Shoving my personal preferences aside for the sake of being "fair") and sold my 70-200 f/4 and got the f/2.8 instead, id still be up about $1000, For me, even $1000 is a lot of money, its another lens for instance, and the $2214 savings could be spent say, adding a 24mm f/1.4L II to replace the 28mm f/1.8 if i wanted to, Heck I could probubly do that and still pocket some money over the cost of switching to Nikon....

So heres the question, Does anyone feel the Nikon system I built up there is $2214 better than the Canon system? I shoot wildlife, macros, indoor food shots and pretty much a bit of EVERYTHING from time to time, Would love to do landscapes again though i rarely do right now...

I dont want to be bi-system or have two cameras mind you... that to me seems like double expense lol

If you have patience, yes I'm sure you would like Nikon better. Being able to go from FF to crop is a hell of a nice feature! You wouldn't need an extender then.

Not to mention going from a 7D -> D800 is a HUGE jump and I'm sure you would really love it. I say patient though as you probably won't sell off everything instantly probably will take a while.

laxlife1234 wrote in post #14626337
If you have patience, yes I'm sure you would like Nikon better. Being able to go from FF to crop is a hell of a nice feature! You wouldn't need an extender then.

Not to mention going from a 7D -> D800 is a HUGE jump and I'm sure you would really love it. I say patient though as you probably won't sell off everything instantly probably will take a while.

Problem is im not exactly in the position of throwing money around right now anyways, So yeah

The best id be able to manage is probubly the D800 and the 50mm f/1.8, Maybe the 105 VR Macro on top of that, While the D800 is amazing, without glass its advantages are moot, id be rebuilding from scratch and that would take an agonizingly long time i bet...

-edit- and im pretty sure a 7D to the 5D III is a huge jump too

Kite surfer, using a 5D2

laxlife1234 wrote in post #14626252
Wherever you may be, Omar, I am curious as to places in NYC to have photoshoots? Or good places at least.

Down in soho. Lots of nice places to shoot or by south street seaport as well.

jdizzle wrote in post #14626285
Omar would love the Wi-Fi boost.

Lets see a road version

KenjiS wrote in post #14626385
Problem is im not exactly in the position of throwing money around right now anyways, So yeah

The best id be able to manage is probubly the D800 and the 50mm f/1.8, Maybe the 105 VR Macro on top of that, While the D800 is amazing, without glass its advantages are moot, id be rebuilding from scratch and that would take an agonizingly long time i bet...

-edit- and im pretty sure a 7D to the 5D III is a huge jump too

Well, yeah, if you don't want to throw money around then wait. I mean getting a 5DIII would be easier but IMO if you are selling off gear (or enough that switching wouldn't be as big of a deal) and you are looking for the best camera go the D800 route then.

Figure if you do wind up having about $5k to blow, buy a D800 from FM to save on taxes and possibly a little more money (make sure it's under warranty), then that leaves you with ~$2k let say. Now you can split that up any which way you would like, you could get the macro and you're left with $1k. You could also wait until the D600 is released and see what that's like as that would be close to $1-1.5k cheaper than the D800. That way you could get more lenses.

vipergts831 wrote in post #14626471
Down in soho. Lots of nice places to shoot or by south street seaport as well.

chances are if it's going to happen it's going to be this Tuesday, maybe not as I'm meeting a friend I haven't seen in a few years (if it all works out), so I think she wants to meet more casually and not go into the city. Otherwise any good streets that are better for shooting vs. others that aren't? I personally like a certain intersection in SoHo
(see pic), but also any places that don't have a ton of people as I don't want 50 people walking in front of my camera ruining the photo

KenjiS wrote in post #14626319
Well posting it in a THIRD thread wont be so bad:

So lets do some math:

This is what Id likely jump for going to Nikon

D800
Nikon 16-35 VR
Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 VR II
Nikon 28mm f/1.8G
Nikon 50mm f/1.8G
Nikon 105mm f/2.8 VR Micro-Nikkor
Nikon TC-20E III
Nikon SB-910 Speedlight
Nikon R1 Macro Speedlight

$9851, My Canon gear is worth around $4000 last i checked, giving me an out of pocket cost of $5851 to make the switch and replace what i have

Now, if i stay Canon, Lets consider the costs of adding the following to my system:

5D Mark III
Canon 17-40 f/4L
Canon 300mm f/4L IS

Which nets me this following system:

5DIII
Canon 17-40 f/4L
Canon 70-200 f/4L IS USM
Canon 28mm f/1.8 USM
Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM
Canon 100mm f/2.8L IS Macro
Canon 300mm f/4L IS USM
Kenko 1.4x DGX Teleconverter
Canon 580EX II
Sigma EM-140 DG Macro Speedlight

$5637, Selling my 7D, 15-85 and 35mm f/2 would likely net me around about $2000 (I think) making my out of pocket around $3637, saving me $2,214 over the Nikon above

I concede, the Nikon system up there has a 70-200 f/2.8 versus my f/4, But personally I'd rather save the weight, the Canon system is lighter I believe (the 17-40 is lighter/smaller than the 16-35, the 70-200 and 300 are lighter than the 70-200 f/2.8 individually..) The Nikon 300mm f/4 lacks VR which meant it was out of the running automatically, and beyond that would have left me a void which the 70-200 f/2.8 would have had to fill anyways, I picked the Nikon TC over a Kenko because in this instance I feel the extra cost might be justified as its a 2x TC and the D800 is a bit of a resolution hog corner to corner...

Even if i went apples to apples(Shoving my personal preferences aside for the sake of being "fair") and sold my 70-200 f/4 and got the f/2.8 instead, id still be up about $1000, For me, even $1000 is a lot of money, its another lens for instance, and the $2214 savings could be spent say, adding a 24mm f/1.4L II to replace the 28mm f/1.8 if i wanted to, Heck I could probubly do that and still pocket some money over the cost of switching to Nikon....

So heres the question, Does anyone feel the Nikon system I built up there is $2214 better than the Canon system? I shoot wildlife, macros, indoor food shots and pretty much a bit of EVERYTHING from time to time, Would love to do landscapes again though i rarely do right now...

I dont want to be bi-system or have two cameras mind you... that to me seems like double expense lol

I wouldn't say Nikon is better. I think you'll appreciate the 800 for its' rez for macro. It's insane how much you to have work with. The commander mode would even make for creative opportunities . I haven't shot any birds but, I plan to in the future. The D800 mainly for me is for landscape/portrait.

laxlife1234 wrote in post #14626326
Lens, or car?

Car.

jdizzle wrote in post #14626725
Car.

Nice! BMW? Audi?

laxlife1234 wrote in post #14626337
If you have patience, yes I'm sure you would like Nikon better. Being able to go from FF to crop is a hell of a nice feature! You wouldn't need an extender then.

Not to mention going from a 7D -> D800 is a HUGE jump and I'm sure you would really love it. I say patient though as you probably won't sell off everything instantly probably will take a while.

Don't forget the crop mode with the D800. It's 15 MP which is still plenty.

Oh, I also found my next bad

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jdizzle wrote in post #14626724
I wouldn't say Nikon is better. I think you'll appreciate the 800 for its' rez for macro. It's insane how much you have work with. The commander mode would even make for creative opportunities . I haven't shot any birds but, I plan to in the future. The D800 mainly for me is for landscape/portrait.

How bout sending me your 800 for a bit so i can try it out

jdizzle wrote in post #14626732
Don't forget the crop mode with the D800. It's 15 MP which is still plenty.

Yes, more than the 5Dc !

laxlife1234 wrote in post #14626730
Nice! BMW? Audi?

Hehe! Some already know what I'm planning to buy. I honestly don't want to buy European.