Landscape photography- D800 or 5D MKIII?

light_pilgrim wrote in post #14524354
The reason I am saying lenses are not relevant for this discussion is because you can put stunning zeiss 21 on both cameras.

OK, if that's the only focal length you'll ever need, then I suppose all else is irrelevant. Somehow I doubt that's the case, however.

You have some great images. Did you try submitting them to 1x.com?

Canon_Lover wrote in post #14524310
The 5d3 has digital levels which are huge for doing quick landscape work. I miss the one I had on my 60d. I now use a 5d2. Also having good noise and dynamic range at higher iso is very nice.

Lenses are far more important than bodies for landscape work. As are filters.


I know I am going to sound like a snobby jerk by saying this.
The d800 is an obvious upgrade for all Nikon shooters. For guys in already shooting Canon it is either a new toy to their collection or they truly think their landscapes will be more interesting with a new camera. I have yet to see really any amazing d800 landscapes where all credit is due to the camera.

Most professional landscapers I know of still shoot the 5d2 or 1d3.

To prove my point, check out my website. All taken with a 60d or 5d2. Mostly 60d. I don't assume people like my work, but can you really argue my work would be better with a d800? If anything I would suffer the lack of good UWA lenses that take normal filters. You can put a 14-24 on a 5d if that lens suites any need.

http://www.johaneickme​yer.com

light_pilgrim wrote in post #14524167
Folks, let's avoid lenses discussion....in any case, there is Zeiss and 14-24, but I do not want to get into lenses

Then you're potentially ignoring an important part of the discussion. Last I checked, Nikon didn't have a 17mm TS-E, for instance.

Edwin Herdman wrote in post #14524390
Then you're potentially ignoring an important part of the discussion. Last I checked, Nikon didn't have a 17mm TS-E, for instance.

I am using Canon today and never wanted to have this lens. What does it change? Last I checked Canon did not have 14-24.

Canon_Lover wrote in post #14524310
To prove my point, check out my website. All taken with a 60d or 5d2. Mostly 60d. I don't assume people like my work, but can you really argue my work would be better with a d800?

Thats a perfectly valid and correct argument, but its missing the point completely.
The question concerns the technology in the bodies only. And the fact is that DR and MP are more important for landscape than a digital level and awesome AF.

It doesn't matter that we're not discussing lenses, because they don't have any impact on the technology in the bodies, which is what this thread is about.

And to reiterate it for the third time just for kicks; OP wanted to know about bodies, not systems.

light_pilgrim wrote in post #14524397
I am using Canon today and never wanted to have this lens. What does it change? Last I checked Canon did not have 14-24.

What's your point about the 14-24? If it is a lens that you really want or need, then it should weigh heavily in your decision. In other words: lenses matter and should be part of the discussion.

Sirrith wrote in post #14524447
Thats a perfectly valid and correct argument, but its missing the point completely.
The question concerns the technology in the bodies only. And the fact is that DR and MP are more important for landscape than a digital level and awesome AF.

It doesn't matter that we're not discussing lenses, because they don't have any impact on the technology in the bodies, which is what this thread is about.

And to reiterate it for the third time just for kicks; OP wanted to know about bodies, not systems.

+1...

Canon_Lover wrote in post #14524310
The 5d3 has digital levels which are huge for doing quick landscape work. I miss the one I had on my 60d. I now use a 5d2. Also having good noise and dynamic range at higher iso is very nice.

Lenses are far more important than bodies for landscape work. As are filters.


I know I am going to sound like a snobby jerk by saying this.
The d800 is an obvious upgrade for all Nikon shooters. For guys in already shooting Canon it is either a new toy to their collection or they truly think their landscapes will be more interesting with a new camera. I have yet to see really any amazing d800 landscapes where all credit is due to the camera.

Most professional landscapers I know of still shoot the 5d2 or 1d3.

To prove my point, check out my website. All taken with a 60d or 5d2. Mostly 60d. I don't assume people like my work, but can you really argue my work would be better with a d800? If anything I would suffer the lack of good UWA lenses that take normal filters. You can put a 14-24 on a 5d if that lens suites any need.

http://www.johaneickme​yer.com

Your images look great - at web size and even reasonable print sizes, more MP may not add much. The point about the extra resolution of the 36 MP is not particularly about quality but about print size at a specified quality. More MP would allow you to make bigger prints of the same images - for many landscapers that's an importnat advantage.

Your landscape works look amazing!
It is interesting for me to read all the 5d3 bashing comments from the 5d2 owners. I wonder if those people have even worked with either the D800 or 5D3.
I have shot with the 5D2s for 3 years and now 5d3s, and I see they are quite different cameras and produce different images.
For your question, I would rent both D800 and 5D3 and the Zeiss 21 to shoot along with the 5d2 for a weekend then decide which way I would go.

the main problem with the d800 is the white spot issue it has on long expsouers this sounds like its getting hot on the senser

hear is the link to the problem

http://emmanuelcoupe.w​ordpress.com …00-long-exposures-issues/

By the way. Glad some of you guys like my work.

I know not many people like my style, but it does serve to show my point about landscapes and what is important.

Canon_Lover wrote in post #14524717
By the way. Glad some of you guys like my work.

I know not many people like my style, but it does serve to show my point about landscapes and what is important.

I suggest you try submitting them to 1x.com

The new Sony sensor in the D800 is at first glance pretty amazing. Higher resolution, better S/N ratio, larger dynamic range, all of which are helpful ingredients. You won't see this on the web or much in prints, unless the prints are very large. Fred Miranda's review shows a large gap between the D800 and the 5DIII. I think both cameras moved in a positive direction, with Nikon making a large leap in IQ and Canon adding more pro features to a consumer body...win win. The obvious Nikon advantages are at a pixel level, but they are there and they are real. This stuff is usually cyclical and I think Canon will rise to the challenge.

Canon_Lover wrote in post #14524717
By the way. Glad some of you guys like my work.

I know not many people like my style, but it does serve to show my point about landscapes and what is important.

Another vote from me - stunning work. Really inspiring.

Proves that all this talk about kit, while interesting, is not what's really important.

Thanks for sharing.

In a nutshell, D800E and Zeiss or Leica R glass.

You would do well to take a look at this site. It's worth the fee and will show you everything you need to know. There is also plenty of info on lens performance on the D800.