Torn between Canon G6 and Rebel XT...

Congratulations, Sophia. You will grow to love it. I recommend you buy this book.

http://www.shortcourse​s.com …re/canon/book_c​anong6.htm

It is a combination beginning photography book and G6 manual. The photography lessons are in the context of your camera. It is pretty basic and will help with your blurry pix.

Of course, BottomBracket's offer may be more interesting

Which Lens for the Rebel XT for wedding photos?...

HI, I am new to this forum and new to Canon Cameras! I am about to take photos at weddings and am buying the digital rebel xt - which seems to be the reasonable choice in the price range.

Please, what size lenses should I buy if I buy two lenses for the purpose of weddings - portraits, candid, groups, etc?

Also, is there a reliable online photo store to order the camera and lenses from or should i best walk into a photo store and buy directly (spend a bit more, is this necessary?)

Thanks so much for all and any advice!
Jo

lefturn99 wrote:
Of course, BottomBracket's offer may be more interesting

I'll say!

Bryan Bedell wrote:
I'll say!

Dang, I knew this photo would come back to haunt me! I almost fell of my chair laughing when I saw this. If it's any consolation, I took a shower - twice - since I posted this photo for the G-Series challenge months ago.

By the way, for those who joined the "What's In My Kitchen" challenge last week, that's my favorite knife of the moment right there, my treasured Wusthof Santoku with the Grafton edge. I'm eyeing some Kershaw knives though for Christmas, but I have to soften up my wife first

Pio

Joa,
Welcome to the forum!
Check out the EOS section:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdis​play.php?f=9
and also the EF and EF-S lens section:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdis​play.php?f=33
There's a "sticky" topic in the top five or so that discusses top lens recommendations specifically.

While we get a lot of helpful input from EOS owners on this particular folder, it's mostly focused on the semi-compact series of cameras.

Personally, I can recommend B&H for online purchases:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com
And I've seen many positive reviews of http://www.adorama.com​/ also.

Bb,
Two food mills on your wall? That's serious. And that's a mighty big peel.

Dear Andy,

I finally decided that the 18 mm lens for the Rebel XT is probably the lens that should be used in comparison with the G6 and its 7.2 mm lens. Using those two lenses, the depths of field for the two cameras at 5 ft and f/2 are as follows:
G6: 3.7 - 7.71
Rebel: 4.25 - 6.07

So, when using the 18 mm lens the Rebel has a smaller depth of field (sharper plane of focus), which I believe was the point you were trying to make.

Bottombracket, is that really you??? lol. Nice one. Sure, I'll let you know when I'll have my free time co'z I'm still juggling with my studies right now. Finals is getting there soon. Thanks bottom!!!

About the booklet, is there a place where I can buy but not online? Maybe barnes?

I'll just manipulate this machine and save for a better Dslr in the future. You are right guys - there's always a better machine out there. But the question is, am I willing to spend that much to compromise on what I like? I'm not sure on how long I will keep my G6. It's my first digicam and I really need more time to manipulate it. About the dslr, really, it's my kind of camera but I just can't have 2 expensive cameras at a time. Some people like their G6 here, I'll find a way to love it too! I cant wait to see my gift!

Ooopss! I put a smiley on my latter post - not a frown... sorry guys...

get the one you can afford!
i have the XT and love it, i also have the pro1 and love it too.. i love everything, everything is love... lol
seriously, get the one that is mare affordable to you and dont forget, with the xt, youll need to upgrade the lenses but with the g-6 your stuck with what you get.
-zacker-

Everytime you guys talk about changing lenses, I was like... I can't stop until I will but that one! Yup, I'm going to Rome next month for a 2 weeks studies. I can't wait to take good pictures! Yup, studying for my graduate studies and working at the same time plus taking good pictures is a blast! Keeping positive guys!

You can make pictures with both, but it's slightly faster and you have more control if you have XT...

In the end it doesn't matter what camera you have.

Robert,

Yes ... that's what I mean.
I assume you are talking about distance in feet (because I get the same values at www.dofmaster.com you gave in your calculation).

However ... to have the same focal length on the 350 as 7.2 on the G6, you'll have to use 21.9 mm (35 mm equivalent), so you arrive at a total depth of field of 1.21 ft (4.47 ft - 5.68 ft) which is an even bigger difference to the 4 ft of total area in focus that the G6 gives you.

However ... 35 mm equivalent focal length is not a very good example for a 'shallow depth of field' photo ... (apart from the fact that the only DSLR lens capable of giving f/2 is the Sigma 20/1.8 lens) ... I'd rather look at the 80 mm focal length (classic portrait focal length, 16 mm on the G6, 50 mm on the 350D) and a subject distance of 10 feet, with an aperture of f/2.8.

Here the values are:
G6: 4.19 ft total in focus (8.33 ft - 12.5 ft)
350: 1.29 ft total in focus (9.39 ft - 10.7 ft)
so you have the same ratio ... ~3x the depth of field, which is roughly equivalent to the difference in sensor size (makes sense, huh?)

If you continue to experiment, you will realize that the setting that will give you a comparable image on the 350D (as far as depth of field is concerned) is f/9 ... and everybody who has done a bit more intensive (I dare not say 'serious' ) portrait photography will know that f/9 is maybe not the optimal setting to achieve good background separation.

Point is, on the G6 you can not use a larger aperture than f/2.8, so you are pretty much limited to that effect. On the 350D, with the 320$ 50/1.4, you can get the area in focus down to 0.65 ft (9.69 ft - 10.3 ft), which is pretty shallow. It means that the eyes will be sharp, but the ears can already be out of focus ... if that is the effect you are going for.

Hope that helps

If you want to have a less technical demonstration... take a look at this image by Sikario (linked in another thread)

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Andy, you took that handsome guy (lol) using G6? Oh, it matters then on the subject...

Sophia,
Just a quick reply--the picture Andy posted was an example of a DSLRs ability for shallow DOF--it definitely wasn't taken with a G6. Note the fellow's ears are just slightly out of focus--and the background is completely soft, but his eyes are in sharp focus. Great effect when you want to draw the eye to one element in your photo.
While this kind of effect is also possible on the G, it takes more work, and is only effective at certain distances (which is what Andy and Robert were discussing in detail). I'll go out on a limb and suggest that you couldn't duplicate the DOF in that image with a G--you'd have to be much closer to the subject. Could be wrong on that.

I also observed that say... I'm taking a group picture (5 or more), when I focus it on the center, it will show sharp on the say... 2 people but blurry on the rest... how to fix that?