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Has anyone seen or used this lighting technique?

 
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Jun 05, 2012 21:48 |  #17

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Jun 05, 2012 21:49 |  #18

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I've seen some pictures before that looked quite nice. With good framing, a rim light can make a kiss during the couple's first dance look quite magical.

But that's got to require some fill from the camera position. Flare on it's own is just ugly.




  
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Jun 05, 2012 22:01 |  #19

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In the past I have often set a remote light under radio control, even with my medium format system which lacked ETTL capability. Then I would position myself relative to the action, not caring about the location of the remote light. It was a remote light on a stand, without an assistant to move it around for me. This is my usual modus operandi at wedding receptions...double lighting, whenever possible. It is what could distinguish my work from 'other pros'.

Essentially you need to think of the off-camera flash as 'the sun' and the fact that you have front lighting for some shots, side lighting for others, and backlighting for yet others. In the case of backlighting, one would ordinarily have fill flash at camera position (which I would have, with a second flash!), but not go without fill flash in backlit situations. The remote light becomes somewhat 'more controllable' than the sun...you can turn it off or regulate its intensity, but you are stuck with the placement of the sun, so you compensate with supplemental light!
...which might be where this photographer erred -- but since you do not have a web site to inspect, you don't know if the backlit shots are suboptimally lit (which I would expect them to be!)


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Jun 05, 2012 22:58 |  #20

Wilt wrote in post #14537240 (external link)
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In the past I have often set a remote light under radio control, even with my medium format system which lacked ETTL capability. Then I would position myself relative to the action, not caring about the location of the remote light. It was a remote light on a stand, without an assistant to move it around for me. This is my usual modus operandi at wedding receptions...double lighting, whenever possible. It is what could distinguish my work from 'other pros'.

Essentially you need to think of the off-camera flash as 'the sun' and the fact that you have front lighting for some shots, side lighting for others, and backlighting for yet others. In the case of backlighting, one would ordinarily have fill flash at camera position (which I would have, with a second flash!), but not go without fill flash in backlit situations. The remote light becomes somewhat 'more controllable' than the sun...you can turn it off or regulate its intensity, but you are stuck with the placement of the sun, so you compensate with supplemental light!
...which might be where this photographer erred -- but since you do not have a web site to inspect, you don't know if the backlit shots are suboptimally lit (which I would expect them to be!)

I watched the gal doing all the shots with the remote flash. ALL of them were essentially done with a backlit configuration. The camera side of the dancing couples (which is what the subject was for all of the shots lit this way - only one couple on the dance floor at a time for the series) was lit only with available light and the flash was always pointing at the camera from the other side of the subjects. I suspect the flash itself was hidden by the subject's bodies (or heads) from time to time but not all the time.


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Jun 05, 2012 23:01 |  #21

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I watched the gal doing all the shots with the remote flash. ALL of them were essentially done with a backlit configuration. The camera side of the dancing couples (which is what the subject was for all of the shots lit this way - only one couple on the dance floor at a time for the series) was lit only with available light and the flash was always pointing at the camera from the other side of the subjects. I suspect the flash itself was hidden by the subject's bodies (or heads) from time to time but not all the time.

Sounds as if the pros subsequently needed to apply quite generous amounts of Fill control in Lightroom! Maybe their Input Preset has that built in?!


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Jun 06, 2012 00:25 |  #22

Wilt wrote in post #14537240 (external link)
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In the past I have often set a remote light under radio control, even with my medium format system which lacked ETTL capability. Then I would position myself relative to the action, not caring about the location of the remote light. It was a remote light on a stand, without an assistant to move it around for me. This is my usual modus operandi at wedding receptions...double lighting, whenever possible. It is what could distinguish my work from 'other pros'.

That's a pretty standard technique these days and possibly what the photographer was trying to emulate. And as you note, the lack of fill could be corrected for in post, but you have to ask why you'd want to work that way.

I take this a step further with a grid spot on a Profoto D1 AIR on a tall stand. I dial in the D1 with a test shot. You could do the same with an Elinchrom EL-Skyport or other remote system that lets you control output level.




  
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Jun 06, 2012 05:36 |  #23

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Jun 06, 2012 09:30 |  #24

I used a separate backlight for the first time at a May wedding. I used the new 600EX-RT on my backup camera, with the camera turned off, gave it to my wife and told her to move around opposite from my position and act like you're taking photographs of the couple.

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I was pleased with how it turned out, but I definitely recognize that practice will make perfect and I have some improvement to work toward.

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Jun 13, 2012 08:18 |  #25

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I used a separate backlight for the first time at a May wedding. I used the new 600EX-RT on my backup camera, with the camera turned off, gave it to my wife and told her to move around opposite from my position and act like you're taking photographs of the couple.

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I was pleased with how it turned out, but I definitely recognize that practice will make perfect and I have some improvement to work toward.

Did you use flash on your camera? Nice picture btw and I would prefer wider shots, but thats just me.


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Jun 13, 2012 10:45 as a reply to  @ iamdogdog's post |  #26

I'm wondering if she is trying to replicate some kind of stage or theatrical lighting.


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Jun 13, 2012 13:26 |  #27

I use the same technique from time to time. I tend to use a bit of fill light from the camera unless the ambient is really good.


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Jun 13, 2012 20:20 |  #28

I don't see what's wrong with this technique. I feel that it does enhance the creative aspect and create more subject isolation for the image.


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Jun 14, 2012 08:16 |  #29

I had a rear-bounced flash on camera.


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Jun 14, 2012 08:54 as a reply to  @ professoryeti's post |  #30

Could she have been going for silhouettes and not so much flared shots?


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