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I got burned by a Canon 580EX II flash

 
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Jun 05, 2012 20:00 |  #1

I was playing key and fill lighting over the weekend with two 580EX II flashes and accidentally discovered this.

Here what I did:
Mounted 1st 580EX II on a stand and placed it on camera left (key light)
Mounted 2nd 580EX II on camera and attached both to a tripod (fill light)
Fired first picture with both flashes on (no problem)
Then I placed my left palm right infront of the on camera flash head instead of disable it.
Fired second picture... Ouchhhhh.... It burned my palm skin and I could smell it.

I am wondering if any of you have experienced this before? I felt dumb for what I've done, so I went back to User Manual AGAIN and found NO WARNING or whatsover.

Then I Google it and found: http://afrotechmods.co​m …X_II_fun/580EX_​II_fun.htm (external link)


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Jun 05, 2012 20:07 |  #2

Maybe there's no warning because they don't expect you to block the flash with your hand. :confused:


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Jun 05, 2012 20:14 |  #3

Scatterbrained wrote in post #14536705 (external link)
Maybe there's no warning because they don't expect you to block the flash with your hand. :confused:

does this mean they anticipate someone using a toaster under water?


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Jun 05, 2012 21:43 |  #4

They didn't anticipate the lack of sense in the American public, where they need to put warning stickers on soda machines warning folks not to tip them over and risk having the thing fall on them!


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Jun 05, 2012 22:41 |  #5

Wilt wrote in post #14537159 (external link)
They didn't anticipate the lack of sense in the American public, where they need to put warning stickers on soda machines warning folks not to tip them over and risk having the thing fall on them!

Or trying to use your hair dryer while in the shower......:lol:


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Jun 05, 2012 22:47 |  #6

Scatterbrained wrote in post #14537399 (external link)
Or trying to use your hair dryer while in the shower......:lol:

...or the lawsuit against MacDonald's, prompting the the fact that MacDonalds lowered its coffee temperatures, to 158 degrees, and now we all see the "CONTENTS HOT" warning on coffee lids.
http://en.wikipedia.or​g …v._McDonald's_R​estaurants (external link)

Flash units are known to warp lighting gels taped to the front of flash units.


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Jun 05, 2012 23:02 |  #7

:lol: I guess you can tell which company hires more lawyers ...

My Nikon SB-900 manual has 5 pages of safety information. Here's item #10:

"Do not fire the unit while the flash head is touching a person or object.
Such use can result in the person being burned, and/or their clothes igniting
from the heat of the flash’s firing."

I checked the manual from my 580EX-II and don't see any safety instructions other than to be careful changing batteries after "firing many flashes" because they could be hot.


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Jun 05, 2012 23:08 |  #8

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:lol: I guess you can tell which company hires more lawyers ...
I checked the manual from my 580EX-II and don't see any safety instructions other than to be careful changing batteries after "firing many flashes" because they could be hot.

Yeah, Canon also states that the Operating Environment for their cameras includes humidity readings only up to 85%, too. I can only guess that they never went to Singapore or WashingtonDC.


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Jun 06, 2012 00:00 |  #9

Lets see a flash head is producing near the intensity of the sun for a fraction of a second and you need a warning about the risks?

Last i checked magnifying glasses don't come with warnings about using them under direct sunlight either.




  
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Jun 06, 2012 00:08 |  #10

From past experience I know that if used a lot, those 580 EX II's can get pretty hot. So hot that the batteries also get hot and stop working until they cool off. I never thought to put my hand in front of the flash to block the light. Usually I turn it off when I don't need it. This helps the unit and the batteries cool down for a bit.


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Jun 06, 2012 00:40 |  #11

Ahh, I think you guys are going a bit over the top. Most people would not know a flash could do this but learn it along the way.

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Jun 06, 2012 00:56 |  #12

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=tt5tnY_c09k (external link)

here's a video displaying what's happened here :)

don't go blasting and smoking everything though, because it does cause a bit of damage to your flash head. I once accidentally popped a flash on my jeans and it left a tiny speck of blue on the head


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Jun 06, 2012 10:36 as a reply to  @ asamimasa's post |  #13

I did the same thing with a Metz 60 CT1 many years ago. I haven't done it since ;)


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Jun 06, 2012 12:21 |  #14

Yep, gets very hot. Now you know. Only gotta stick your finger in the fire once and youll never do it again.


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Jun 06, 2012 12:59 |  #15

Bob_A wrote in post #14537513 (external link)
:lol: I guess you can tell which company hires more lawyers ...

My Nikon SB-900 manual has 5 pages of safety information. Here's item #10:

"Do not fire the unit while the flash head is touching a person or object.
Such use can result in the person being burned, and/or their clothes igniting
from the heat of the flash’s firing."

I checked the manual from my 580EX-II and don't see any safety instructions other than to be careful changing batteries after "firing many flashes" because they could be hot.

Maybe Canon just assumes that people who buy Canon are clearly more intelligent than those who buy Nikon, so don't need all those "this is hot" type warnings. :lol:;)




  
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