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Jun 06, 2012 09:37 |  #1

Just trying to gather some input from users on which they prefer and why (specifically when it comes to use for weddings). If you use something else, feel free to explain.


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Jun 06, 2012 09:51 |  #2

I like Demb's flash bracket but his flash modifiers just look like cheap pieces of bent plastic to me, something I could make up in my kitchen from old margarine tubs. No offense meant to Joe Demb but I don't see much really unique in his products. And they're not exactly cheap either.

Just ome mans opinion, I'm sure you'll hear the exact opposite from others.

EDIT: Hadn't looked at ABBC but I have about the same opinion. You could make the same thing with a sheet of thin gauge plastic (available from any hobby shop) and a velcro strap or even a rubber band to hold it on your speedlite for a couple bucks. Sorry but the prices being charged for these simple modifiers are outrageous, IMO.




  
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Jun 06, 2012 09:54 |  #3

I like the large rogue flashbender. Its does the same thing as the other two products, but its infinitely flexible in its setup. A quick brush of the fingertips and you can adjust from bouncing most of the light to using the flashbender to kick almost all of the light forward instead.




  
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Jun 06, 2012 10:50 |  #4

DennisW1 wrote in post #14539344 (external link)
I like Demb's flash bracket but his flash modifiers just look like cheap pieces of bent plastic to me, something I could make up in my kitchen from old margarine tubs. No offense meant to Joe Demb but I don't see much really unique in his products. And they're not exactly cheap either.

Just ome mans opinion, I'm sure you'll hear the exact opposite from others.

EDIT: Hadn't looked at ABBC but I have about the same opinion. You could make the same thing with a sheet of thin gauge plastic (available from any hobby shop) and a velcro strap or even a rubber band to hold it on your speedlite for a couple bucks. Sorry but the prices being charged for these simple modifiers are outrageous, IMO.

Yeah, I am planning on making a DIY version of either of them...$30 for less then $5 worth of materials is absurd.


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Jun 06, 2012 10:54 |  #5

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I like the large rogue flashbender. Its does the same thing as the other two products, but its infinitely flexible in its setup. A quick brush of the fingertips and you can adjust from bouncing most of the light to using the flashbender to kick almost all of the light forward instead.

Don't care for it's massive size and $40 price tag


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Jun 06, 2012 11:01 |  #6

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Don't care for it's massive size and $40 price tag

Size matters. When you get in a circumstance where you cant bounce and you have to rely on the bounce card to kick light forward you want the biggest reflector you can use. As for the price, cant do much about that.




  
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Jun 06, 2012 12:01 |  #7

I like my Demb Flash Diffuser (DFD) Pro: http://www.dembflashpr​oducts.com/diffuser/ (external link)

I'm sure you could make it yourself but I'm not disappointed I bought mine from Demp directly. I also like the Newton FR3 rotating flash bracket. I'm not a professional but Wilt (https://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.p​hp?u=36606) recommended the Newton bracket and I took his advice.


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Jun 06, 2012 12:37 |  #8

I love the Rogue... but it can act as a large sail when you're outdoor in a breeze...


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Jun 06, 2012 13:33 |  #9

I use the Rogue.


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Jun 06, 2012 13:35 |  #10

I also use the Rogue. I have the set, but mainly use the small and the bounce card.


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Jun 06, 2012 14:43 |  #11

Size matters - I use a wall. I don't use on camera diffusers, I use off camera light.


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Jun 06, 2012 14:57 |  #12

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Size matters - I use a wall. I don't use on camera diffusers, I use off camera light.

You don't always have that option, which is why I keep one in my bag. Nothing like walking into a room with black walls and a black ceiling. ;)


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Jun 06, 2012 14:59 |  #13

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You don't always have that option, which is why I keep one in my bag. Nothing like walking into a room with black walls and a black ceiling. ;)

My last wedding was on a patio with no walls and a black canopy for ceiling. No place to put off camera lights. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and make do with what you have.




  
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Jun 06, 2012 15:38 |  #14

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My last wedding was on a patio with no walls and a black canopy for ceiling. No place to put off camera lights. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and make do with what you have.

exactly. When the option is bare flash or bounce card, I'll take the bounce card. ;)


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Jun 06, 2012 15:54 |  #15

I'm a big fan of the Demb Flip-It. The big thing it has going for it IMHO is the hinge, which allows me to control the amount of light going forward. I use mine all of the time when there is not a convenient wall to bounce from.


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