Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 Pancake

This outta silence those who kept saying the 40 would be perfect for mirrorless, despite many, many people explaining the whole flange distance deal.

Congrats, your pancake is now a cupcake.

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Leopold Stotch wrote in post #14756763
This outta silence those who kept saying the 40 would be perfect for mirrorless, despite many, many people explaining the whole flange distance deal.

Congrats, your pancake is now a cupcake.

Terrible.

This mirrorless thing is so dumb - not to tread on those who like the concept - but it's not that much lighter or more portable. Seems like a waste.

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MidnightRook wrote in post #14756901
I guess you haven't held a mirrorless camera like the gf1. With the 20 1.7 it is tiny. This setup should be much smaller than any of the canon dslrs.

Not once you slap the adapter and most EF glass on the end of it. I'm certainly not interested in buying glass for a new mount that I can't use on other cams - too heavily invested in EOS.

I've used an E-PL1 and hated the button config and lack of VF. It wasn't any smaller than my G11. I'll admit that the NEX cameras look pretty sweet, but then you slap a zoom lens on them and they're back to being SLR sized.

Edit: Sorry, lol, not trying to start a debate or anything in the pancake thread.

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iLvision wrote in post #14755141
This thing will be GREAT for portraits using wide open on crop sensor when you frame in tight. Don’t think twice, just GET IT. It’s worth every penny for the price!

dave_bass5 wrote in post #14755404
For portraits i'd be inclined to go for the 50mm f1/.8, even though i know the 40mm is a better all round lens. The longer FL and ability to reduce the DOF more would be more useful. Im basing this on lack of funds though.

Stir Fry A Lot wrote in post #14756696
For portraits get a 50 1.8 or 1.4.

tkbslc wrote in post #14756717
Agree. A 50mm f1.8 is just as sharp at f2.8 as the 40mm, plus it's a better portrait length and it will provide far more subject isolation when used near wide open. It's also nearly half the price.

You might also consider selling 18-55 for $90-100 and then adding the $200 you'd spend on the 40mm and getting a Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 instead. They are $300-325 used and excellent for everything the kit lens does + portraits.

Looks like I'm going to my camera store today and compare them.

For some reason though, I've never really liked the 50mm f/1.8. I has to be some combination of cheapness and focusing, I don't know.

Selling my kit lens is out of the question. There's sand in the autofocus so it only works 50% of the time.

I'm headed out the door right now to my camera shop and test them out.

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Virto wrote in post #14757139
Not once you slap the adapter and most EF glass on the end of it. I'm certainly not interested in buying glass for a new mount that I can't use on other cams - too heavily invested in EOS.

I've used an E-PL1 and hated the button config and lack of VF. It wasn't any smaller than my G11. I'll admit that the NEX cameras look pretty sweet, but then you slap a zoom lens on them and they're back to being SLR sized.

Edit: Sorry, lol, not trying to start a debate or anything in the pancake thread.

They're coming out with lenses specifically for this camera since they'll be smaller (22mm and the 40mm pancake). This camera is more for street-type, everyday shots (In my opinion), but with the great image quality and possible compatibility. If you own a DSLR, this camera doesn't make too much sense, but if you're wanting to move up from a point and shoot or from Micro 4/3's, then it may be nice.

And an optical 35mm viewfinder on the top would be sexy on the camera.

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DinosaurioAllie wrote in post #14757208
Looks like I'm going to my camera store today and compare them.

For some reason though, I've never really liked the 50mm f/1.8. I has to be some combination of cheapness and focusing, I don't know.

Selling my kit lens is out of the question. There's sand in the autofocus so it only works 50% of the time.

I'm headed out the door right now to my camera shop and test them out.

A bit late now but I would also have recommended the 50mm f/1.4 over the f/1.8 but I thought I wouldn't go too high price wise.
I do think the 40mm is nicer though, but for portraits it's a bit wide IMO.

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MidnightRook wrote in post #14757477
They're coming out with lenses specifically for this camera since they'll be smaller (22mm and the 40mm pancake).

The EF 40mm 2.8 will not fit this camera. You need to buy a separate adapter to make it fit.

Once you add the $200 adapter, it no longer looks like a pancake lens:

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MidnightRook wrote in post #14757670
It is a short stack. Still pancake-y.

Nah, it's already huge with an adaptor. I'd rather stick with 5D2

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dave_bass5 wrote in post #14757518
A bit late now but I would also have recommended the 50mm f/1.4 over the f/1.8 but I thought I wouldn't go too high price wise.
I do think the 40mm is nicer though, but for portraits it's a bit wide IMO.

I'm totally sold on the 40mm. Buying it tomorrow morning if I can convince my dad.

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