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EF lens on crop body. Am I thinking odd?

 
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Jun 08, 2012 12:55 |  #46

Pupu wrote in post #14550812 (external link)
ok from the above two posts (Sirrith, SkipD) what I can conclude is its not the FOV that matters for a good composition but the 'actual focal lengths' (whichever format it be) that matters. Cool!

The way I suggest that you think about composition of an image has a few steps to it.

  • Find a physical position from which to view the scene that provides the spatial relationship and perspective (relative sizes of objects at different distances from the viewer or camera) of the elements of the scene that suits your imagination of how the image should look.
  • Determine what elements of the scene that you want included in the image (how you would frame the scene in the final image).
  • Determine the optimum focal length for your camera to provide the field (angle) of view to frame the scene the way you imagined it in the previous step.

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Jun 08, 2012 13:05 |  #47

Pupu wrote in post #14550812 (external link)
ok from the above two posts (Sirrith, SkipD) what I can conclude is its not the FOV that matters for a good composition but the 'actual focal lengths' (whichever format it be) that matters. Cool!

One more comment on the subject of reach. The seemingly additional reach you get with a crop sensor is a fiction. If you shoot with a 200mm lens on a 1.6 crop and a FF, the subject projected on the sensor will be exactly the same size. All you get with the 1.6 sensor is all of the stuff around the subject pre-cropped, so it looks like it's been magnified more. If both the 1.6 and FF sensors have the same number of megapixels (i.e. say both are 18mp), then you will get more pixels on the subject with the crop, apparently giving you more freedom to crop even more, again seeming to enlarge it. The reality again is that all depends on other factors, like the lens ability to resolve the image, or camera processor's ability to render the image. Cramming the same number of pixels into a smaller space doesn't automatically translate into better IQ.

With a good body, good lens, and the appropriate post processing, that apparent reach advantage can be realized, but it isn't a guaranteed bonus. All of the factors need to come together to achieve it.


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Jun 08, 2012 13:58 |  #48

SkipD wrote in post #14550965 (external link)
The way I suggest that you think about composition of an image has a few steps to it.
  • Find a physical position from which to view the scene that provides the spatial relationship and perspective (relative sizes of objects at different distances from the viewer or camera) of the elements of the scene that suits your imagination of how the image should look.
  • Determine what elements of the scene that you want included in the image (how you would frame the scene in the final image).
  • Determine the optimum focal length for your camera to provide the field (angle) of view to frame the scene the way you imagined it in the previous step.

Man I just realised that I know 1% of photography :)
Just read your article on perspective. After reading it I went pack to my picture folder just to realise how crappy my pics have been all this while. It forced me to look at distance and FL in a all new 'perspective'. Great job!


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