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70-200 f/4L w/o IS for weddings?

 
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Jun 09, 2012 17:09 |  #16

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Jun 09, 2012 18:18 |  #17

Buy it (used) if you have the money, you can always get it back when you re-sell. I've found though that F4 and no IS is pretty useless unless the ceremony is in daylight, or you can use your flash. I'd rather get a fast prime than try to use a 70-200 f4 non IS. I've never really used mine for a paid event because the keeper rate is just too low, and I often do gigs in poor light. The 135L is maybe four hundred more on top of the 70-200 and would be a lot more useful for weddings IMO. You can use it not only during the reception/ceremony but it would also be better for the portrait shoot.




  
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Jun 09, 2012 20:51 |  #18

I would not consider the non-IS 70-200mm f/4L for any indoor shots unless I was using flash.

With bounced flash and a Joe Demb Flash Diffuser Pro it can be great. However, I do prefer the IS version for ANY shooting...

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Jun 09, 2012 22:27 |  #19

The 70-200 F4 is not your best bet for weddings. IF it has the word weddings unless your outdoors, I think you need a Mark I or II 2.8 IS. The 2.8 in most churches help a lot. Their so dark!!


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Jun 10, 2012 02:07 |  #20

uneek78 wrote in post #14552403 (external link)
I currently own a 24-105L. I'm considering purchasing a 70-200mm 4L without instant stabilization. I would be using it on my rebel t1i. I'm curious if this would be a waste of money if my main goal is to get if for weddings. Thoughts?

This may sound stupid, but that price point is my major deciding factor at the moment.

I made the same decision, but mostly because IS doesn't freeze moving belly dancers, and I looked at a lot of EXIF for shows past, and f/4 was generally in the range because of the stage late. And a lot because I got very tired of hand-holding the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS for daylong shows (and a tripod or monopod is just too slow for belly dance).

The problem for a wedding situation is available light, and f/4 is sort of medium speed. I think you will find it too slow :-(. Also, on a 1.6x FoV cropping factor camera, part of the 70-200mm focal length range is outside what on-camera EOS speedlites can cover,

While it lacks the same composition ability, if you want a lens for reach, or for frame-filling portraits, but also want low light capability that typifies interior lighting, and because of price ... I can seriously recommend the 100mm f/2. It's not a L-series lens, but it's well-made, light-weight, unobtrusive, and 1-stop faster than even the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS. These things seem useful in a wedding context.

I use the 100mm all the time in the studio on a 7D as a portrait lens, love it. Also for shows were I need reach in crappy stage light, where the f/4 70-200mm just cannot handle it.

Another thing I discovered with the 70-200 is that I really tended to use 100mm and 135mm quite a lot. A 100mm would not get as tight of a view, but it would not lose a lot in cropping either. I can also recommend the 135mm f/2L, but that is outside the price range you indicated -- but maybe not so if used.

Thinking about having a set of long fast primes, eventually: 100mm, 135mm, and 200mm. But for your application the 100mm f/2 would be in the sweet spot of price/performance for reach and low-light.


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Jun 10, 2012 03:53 |  #21

raksphoto wrote in post #14557440 (external link)
I made the same decision, but mostly because IS doesn't freeze moving belly dancers, and I looked at a lot of EXIF for shows past, and f/4 was generally in the range because of the stage late. And a lot because I got very tired of hand-holding the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS for daylong shows (and a tripod or monopod is just too slow for belly dance).

The problem for a wedding situation is available light, and f/4 is sort of medium speed. I think you will find it too slow :-(. Also, on a 1.6x FoV cropping factor camera, part of the 70-200mm focal length range is outside what on-camera EOS speedlites can cover,

While it lacks the same composition ability, if you want a lens for reach, or for frame-filling portraits, but also want low light capability that typifies interior lighting, and because of price ... I can seriously recommend the 100mm f/2. It's not a L-series lens, but it's well-made, light-weight, unobtrusive, and 1-stop faster than even the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS. These things seem useful in a wedding context.

I use the 100mm all the time in the studio on a 7D as a portrait lens, love it. Also for shows were I need reach in crappy stage light, where the f/4 70-200mm just cannot handle it.

Another thing I discovered with the 70-200 is that I really tended to use 100mm and 135mm quite a lot. A 100mm would not get as tight of a view, but it would not lose a lot in cropping either. I can also recommend the 135mm f/2L, but that is outside the price range you indicated -- but maybe not so if used.

Thinking about having a set of long fast primes, eventually: 100mm, 135mm, and 200mm. But for your application the 100mm f/2 would be in the sweet spot of price/performance for reach and low-light.

This is not a bad idea at all. Thanks for suggesting!


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Jun 11, 2012 01:22 |  #22

uneek78 wrote in post #14557592 (external link)
This is not a bad idea at all. Thanks for suggesting!

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Jun 11, 2012 05:30 |  #23

Absolutely not I used a friends 70-200 f4 for a couple of weddings last year and got some great results


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