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Jun 11, 2012 06:04 |  #1

Doing some work for a remodeling company to show off their work. Getting glare from some stainless steel appliances in one of their kitchens but can't figure out how to remove the glare. When I search, I find lots of ways to get rid of glare from glasses but nothing on what I'm looking for.

I've tried the band aid tool in Photoshop CS6 but can't seem to get it to do quite what I need it to do.

Any suggestions on what I can do Here is an example:

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Jun 11, 2012 07:01 |  #2

Content Aware Fill and/or some cloning.


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Jun 11, 2012 07:48 |  #3

D Thompson wrote in post #14561913 (external link)
Content Aware Fill and/or some cloning.

The content aware isn't getting it done either although I'm no expert with it. Maybe there are some other settings I'm not aware (no pun intended) of? :)




  
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Jun 11, 2012 09:38 |  #4

GadgetRick wrote in post #14562029 (external link)
The content aware isn't getting it done either ...

What isn't it doing?
Maybe if you select the area(s) that you want to clone one at a time & clone within the selections.
An easier method would have been to turn off the lights causing the selections, relight the hood, & then blend that exposure with your base image.


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Jun 11, 2012 11:12 |  #5

That would be my first thought as well. Remove the source but I'm not sure the OP can. I shot several interiors for real estate photography and one of the things I had to do was open all the windows and turn on all the lights.


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Jun 11, 2012 11:25 |  #6

I prefer clone stamp and I played with it for a while. A lot of tonal changes in the metal so it is not easy and I had a tough time with it. It can be done but it will take time and patience.

I just went on the site I used to work for and had a look. Pretty much every kitchen showed some glare somewhere, be it off counters, metal sinks, cabinet doors, etc. Obviously metal is the worst to work with but it showed on black fridges. White seemed to be most neutral. Are you getting complaints from the client?


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Jun 11, 2012 13:39 |  #7

Unfortunately I think you will have difficulty in making these images look the way that you want because, being honest here, the images posted are not that great. They are not terrible but are far from being great.

The shadows on the wall in the 2nd image and and underexposed doors on the RHS of the island show that not a lot of thought was given to modifying the way the room was lit to make an exceptional set of photos.

The very best interior images I have seen have always been composite images with different areas being lit and shaded independantly and then blended at the end to a single image.

Lighting combines with scrims reflectors and diffusers can all be used to properly light the scene.

Take the time on site to get it right - you should not rely on getting a poor image fixed in photoshop.

Sorry for being so blunt but if no one points out the problems in the original images you will not strive to develop your skills further.


  
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Jun 11, 2012 16:03 |  #8

digital paradise wrote in post #14563034 (external link)
I prefer clone stamp and I played with it for a while. A lot of tonal changes in the metal so it is not easy and I had a tough time with it. It can be done but it will take time and patience.

I just went on the site I used to work for and had a look. Pretty much every kitchen showed some glare somewhere, be it off counters, metal sinks, cabinet doors, etc. Obviously metal is the worst to work with but it showed on black fridges. White seemed to be most neutral. Are you getting complaints from the client?

Unfortunately, the client is asking to have the glare removed. :(




  
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Jun 11, 2012 16:06 |  #9

Nightstalker wrote in post #14563777 (external link)
Unfortunately I think you will have difficulty in making these images look the way that you want because, being honest here, the images posted are not that great. They are not terrible but are far from being great.

The shadows on the wall in the 2nd image and and underexposed doors on the RHS of the island show that not a lot of thought was given to modifying the way the room was lit to make an exceptional set of photos.

The very best interior images I have seen have always been composite images with different areas being lit and shaded independantly and then blended at the end to a single image.

Lighting combines with scrims reflectors and diffusers can all be used to properly light the scene.

Take the time on site to get it right - you should not rely on getting a poor image fixed in photoshop.

Sorry for being so blunt but if no one points out the problems in the original images you will not strive to develop your skills further.

While I appreciate your honestly, I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. The images aren't bad. Could they be better? Absolutely. They can ALWAYS be better. However, this wasn't a shoot the client was paying for me to come in and spend all day setting up various lighting, etc. This was a quick shoot. The client--a remodeler--paid a stager to come in to stage a kitchen they remodeled. We had about an hour (or less) to get in and out.

I am fully aware of what can be done with the techniques you mentioned. This wasn't a shoot like that.

Honestly, if you're not going to offer any help maybe you shouldn't say anything? If I were looking for advice on how to improve other aspects of the photo, I'll be sure to ask you.

Sorry for being blunt but, if you reply to a question with answers to a question which wasn't asked, you'll keep insulting people.




  
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Jun 11, 2012 17:42 |  #10

I didn't mean to be insulting and I did say the images weren't bad - just not a great place to start from if the client needs the reflections removing.

Reading many of the posts on the forum I find myself thinking that the OP's wouldn't be needing to do the pp that they are trying to if they spent a bit more time getting it right in the camera first. Too many people just shoot and don't think about it as it can all be fixed in post.

Unfortunately you didn't say up front that this was a quick shoot and is not representative of what you would do if you were to do a proper shoot with a decent allocation of time.

If I had known that you only had a short time to get a wide range of shots then I probably wouldn't have posted in the way I did - but thats the problem in replying to posts when you are not in full posession of the facts - you assume and in doing so risk making an ass out of yourself.

Now as for constructive advice I've had a play with one of the the low-res images posted up and as has been said by digital paradise, I personally favour clone stamp than content aware as you can have much more control over the final outcome. The extractor hood and oven are relatively straightforward and should be quite easy to get a good finish with the high-res images.

The Fridge Freezer though is a PITA in both images as you are looking to cover up a big area.

I was able to take the eye away from the reflections a bit by selecting the fridge freezer and reducing contrast in this area but it ended up looking dull. In reality I'm stumped by the fridge/freezer and I would probably find it easier and less costly in time to just reshoot.

However sticking on the pp angle have you ever visited http://www.retouchpro.​com (external link) - as a forum they have some of the best retouchers I have ever seen over there - if anyone can help you out, they can.

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Jun 11, 2012 17:47 |  #11

This was the first thread I looked at after searching "metal reflections" :

http://www.retouchpro.​com …ess-steel-retouching.html (external link)


  
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Jun 11, 2012 19:01 |  #12

Nightstalker wrote in post #14564897 (external link)
I didn't mean to be insulting and I did say the images weren't bad - just not a great place to start from if the client needs the reflections removing.

Reading many of the posts on the forum I find myself thinking that the OP's wouldn't be needing to do the pp that they are trying to if they spent a bit more time getting it right in the camera first. Too many people just shoot and don't think about it as it can all be fixed in post.

Unfortunately you didn't say up front that this was a quick shoot and is not representative of what you would do if you were to do a proper shoot with a decent allocation of time.

If I had known that you only had a short time to get a wide range of shots then I probably wouldn't have posted in the way I did - but thats the problem in replying to posts when you are not in full posession of the facts - you assume and in doing so risk making an ass out of yourself.

Now as for constructive advice I've had a play with one of the the low-res images posted up and as has been said by digital paradise, I personally favour clone stamp than content aware as you can have much more control over the final outcome. The extractor hood and oven are relatively straightforward and should be quite easy to get a good finish with the high-res images.

The Fridge Freezer though is a PITA in both images as you are looking to cover up a big area.

I was able to take the eye away from the reflections a bit by selecting the fridge freezer and reducing contrast in this area but it ended up looking dull. In reality I'm stumped by the fridge/freezer and I would probably find it easier and less costly in time to just reshoot.

However sticking on the pp angle have you ever visited http://www.retouchpro.​com (external link) - as a forum they have some of the best retouchers I have ever seen over there - if anyone can help you out, they can.

Good Luck.

Fair enough. I apologize for my terse reply. Rough day (non-photography). Not your fault.

I've been playing with the clone tool and I think I've gotten it to an acceptable level for the client. Just a PITA. Thanks to you--and everyone else--for the suggestions.

I agree it's easier to take care of it before you get to post. I'll be checking out the forum you posted the link to. I find myself not doing as much of the big stuff in post as I've been able to catch more and more before I snap the shot. However, it's the little stuff, which tends to require the post work for me. I guess I'm moving in the right direction...

Thanks again and I apologize to you again for my temper.




  
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Jun 11, 2012 19:17 |  #13

Titus213 wrote in post #14565259 (external link)
Deceptively difficult fix. Cloning that metal will be a bear and the results will most likely not meet your desires. I played with it a while and it just wasn't happening right.

I'll be interested in what the experts here come up with.

Yeah, it is a bear. Someone did a nice job with it and I've been working with it. I think I've gotten it to an acceptable level (for the client). At least, I hope so. :) I'll post my results shortly.




  
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Jun 11, 2012 19:20 |  #14

Flag your lights when you shoot...


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Jun 11, 2012 19:28 |  #15

Doesn't help for THIS shoot; but use a CPL for future shoots, maybe?


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