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UWA lenses VS. Panoramic shots for Landscape.. your thoughts?

 
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Jun 13, 2012 05:05 |  #1

Hi

I want to start doing some landscape photography and have been looking into some UWA lenses such as the 16-35mm L II or 17-40mm etc.

But then it occurred to me that I can just use my 24-105L, maybe at even 35mm for better detail and just stitch the pics together with PS or other pano software.

I just wanted to hear your thoughts about this since I'm more or less a noob.

Pros/Cons?


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Jun 13, 2012 05:31 |  #2

I think both have their place depending on the type of image you wish to create.

24 is pretty wide on a FF anyway, isn't it?


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Jun 13, 2012 05:46 |  #3

With digital and the right software and skills you can just stitch in PS and get excellent results. There are some stuff you cant just stitch for various reasons but for me if I need wider than 24mm (which is plenty wide on a FF) I just stitch images together.




  
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Jun 13, 2012 06:06 |  #4

Yes 24mm is pretty wide on a FF but not wide enough to capture a vary wide vista, but I guess if you want to capture a really wide scene, panoramic stitching is probably the way to go huh?


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Jun 13, 2012 06:18 |  #5

I guess you will need both since each angle has it's function.
This type (external link) of panoramic photo I got with 50mm lens. Also tried with UWA but this solution was much better.
On the other hand, there is no way you can achieve this wide angle (external link) with 50mm lens.

I guess there is no rule. No matter what lens you have you will always try to use it the best you can, by changing perspective, location or something else.


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Jun 13, 2012 06:37 |  #6

Beautiful shots Ilija. How wide are those water shots? Crop or FF?


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Jun 13, 2012 07:19 |  #7

pstyle1 wrote in post #14572399 (external link)
Beautiful shots Ilija. How wide are those water shots? Crop or FF?

Thank you my friend! Water shots are 17mm FF (17-40 lens).


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Jun 13, 2012 07:42 |  #8

There are uses for both the 16-35 and the 24-105...not to mention longer lenses as well, when shooting landscape.

I have the 16-35 & 24-105 and it's about 50/50 for the work I do.

That is part of the "vision" you will have for composing each shot. Some shots are going to call for the UWA where others will call for some focal length in the 24-105 or other lens.


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Jun 13, 2012 07:57 |  #9

I have done both, and both can provide excellent results. You can get great details and more pixels with a pano, but the down side is that to really do them right requires setup. You need to align to the nodal point on the lens, and set up an a steady tripod, shoot in manual so that your metering doesn't change across the scene, etc. It's great if you know what you want to shoot, and when it's going to happen, and have a few minutes to set up.
Panos don't really work well for spontaneous scenes, or scenes with fast moving action, etc. By the time you pan and take the second shot, the scene or the subject has changed.


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Jun 13, 2012 08:23 |  #10

Nothing like a couple of examples. Zeiss 35mm vs 90mm TSE stitched panorama. Note the perspective of the condos in the background. Moderate wide angle exaggerates their distance, while moderate tele gives an eyeball image.


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Jun 13, 2012 08:31 |  #11

But here is where the real difference is. As good as the Zeiss is, it can't hold a candle to the detail of the 90mm stitch (which used the shift movement to make the segments of the stitch. I have to say that the auto-stitching capability of Photoshop CS5 is great.


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Jun 13, 2012 10:21 |  #12

24mm is an excellent focal length for landscapes...I use my TS-E 24mm for the majority of my landscapes. I'm not familiar with the optical quality of the 24-105mm @24mm, but that absolutely should get the job done most of the time. My advice is to stick with your 24-105mm until you don't feel like a noob anymore.

Meanwhile, if you haven't already done so, make a determined investment in other essential/nice-to-have landscape accessories. Get two or three 4"x6" gradient neutral filters (use only Lee or Singh Ray) and get the Lee filter-holder bracket. I like having a 3-stop hard and a 3-stop soft GND. Some simple neutral density filters would very useful as well for slowing the shutter speed and getting beautiful motion-blur for water. Do you have a rock-solid tripod? Cable-release (or wireless)? Circular polarizer?


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Jun 13, 2012 11:51 |  #13

Thanks for the advice. I'm starting to add accessories.. have to be discreet not to upset the wife ya know... although she's always buying dresses and shoes and my last clothes shopping spree was at Marshall's sometime last year.

I have a crummy tripod that works in a pinch but definitely needs to be upgraded. The ND filters your recommend are insanely expensive. I was thinking a B+W ND which are still about $100.. they no good?


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Jun 13, 2012 12:01 |  #14

I used to think I could just use panoramas for everything, but sometime you can't stitch panos. Like if you have a 10stop on during sunset and you want to take a panorama. The light changes too fast for many long exposures and you'll have different lighting across the board.


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Jun 13, 2012 12:11 |  #15

A sunset stitch. Hand held. Just do it.

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