Need Printer Calibration Help

My monitor is calibrated with Spyder2, all images processed in PE3 look great on my monitor as well as others.

When I print to my hp deskjet 9650 the pictures come out way darker than on the monitor. In the colour management tab in Preferences the only colour profile is sRGB 'Colour Space Profile'. There are 31 different options that I could add for profiles. Which one is the right one for me? I don't want to have to go through them all to see what works best.

Thanks

I know my Canon printer has different profiles for each paper/ink combination, can you find something like that for your printer? I have a book on color, I forget the name but it's widely recommended, that covers it but it's hard going and I haven't made it that far yet.

What Tim said is essentially correct. Look for any of those profiles that specifically mention HP in their title, and hopefully even more so, your exact printer and paper combination. They may have obscure names, though.

Check HP's technical support area on the web to see if they have specific printer and paper color profiles for the combination(s) you are using.

I know that my HP all-in-one printer at home prints with a horrible green cast when color profiling is set to default or off.

I have tried to find some info on HP's website to no avail. I see there is a help forum there so I posed the same problem there too.

This is the slection of profiles listed I can choose from.

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Probably a total waste of time but I shall press on anyway. I use PSE2, and a Canon printer, and when I go to Print Preview there is a box at the bottom of the window that contains several profiles for different papers.
Whether it is the same for your printer I don`t know but maybe worth a look. It is just above the Perceptual, Relative Colourmetric box in the area they call Print Space.
Hope this helps.

Here is what that screen looks like, basically all the same profiles as before. Should I just keep trying to print using all the different profiles or is there one that would be best to try first. I really don't want to have to go through a lot of photo paper trying them alll out.

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What is the working space you use when editing your images?

Having not used your printer before, try this.
In your prefs. you've been looking at, set the color space to what ever space is your working space. Then try printing.

Doug,

Are you refering to the Mode? If so it is using RGB Color and there are many different RGB profiles, which is right for me. The current colour profile is sRGB Colour Space Profile

I am starting to panic now ! I believe that my kids have bought me PSE3 or PSE4 for Xmas. The profiles that are showing on your picture bear little resemblance to that which I have on my Print Preview screen although I do have a Canon printer.
I have 6 profiles for my printer and 12 profiles for other Canon printers. Why they would choose to put profiles on there for other Canon printers is beyond me.
Doug is the man to talk to. He managed to get my prints spot on and he is 7000 miles away !!

jim,

I cropped your screen capture to illustrate a few things. And so I might enlist others to help.

Inside the red circle is the key.
I'm making a few assumptions here, tell me if I'm wrong.
"Color Management" is an on/of, yes/no selector.
"Source Space" is the active menu in the screen capture.

If this is correct, you would want color management "on/yes"
Here is the fun part.
You want the "Source Space" set to the working space you use in PSE3. Here is whats up; The "Source Space" tells the print driver to assume that all files being fed to it are in that color space. For sake of argument lets say AdobeRGB(aRGB for short). Now if your working space is also set to aRGB, when you save your tiff that you are going to print, you will not need to convert to another color space prior to printing. Another step avoided. Now, if you feed the printer a file not in aRGB, following from the previous example, one of several things can happen. 1) The print driver could be excessively intuitive and an on-the-fly conversion from the file color space to the expected "Printer Source" space could take place, preserving the look of your image. From what you described, this was not the case. 2) The print driver would just assume aRGB and treat the file numbers as aRGB numbers. Depending upon the combination of profile S.N.A.F.U., just about anything can happen. But this is probably what happened in your case. 3) The print driver coud throw a coniptschken(that how you spell it?) and not color manage anything. All hell breaks loose.
So, in your case for the time being you want your PSE3 "RGB working space" to match what your "Source Space" is set to in the print driver.

Any of this making sense?

Also, I'd really enjoy to hear from some one who has used a similar set up and how they tackled things.
Printers beeping at me got to go...

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Here is an image without the drop down menu. It shows the Source Space as 'Untagged RGB' and the Print Space 'Same as source'. I can't change the Source Space in this menu.

Briefly my workflow is RSP convert to 8-bit TIF, then in PE3 save as JPG.

I do understand what you guys are trying to explain, that I need to match the Source & Print Space so the what is seen on the screen is exactly what is printed.

Should I try to change the Source Space? And if so, how do I do this?

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More in the morning.
Toooo long in the offic etoday

Your print preview pic looks a lot closer to the original compared to mine in print preview...man if i could just get this profile thing straight, cause soon as i think i have it i see a post that is telling me different.

The question i asked on another thread that i am still waitng to get an answer from is the Profile flow. 1) Do you start with the monitor profile being that of the monitor or that of your image/workspace (in my case do i choose viewsonic or aRGB)? 2) Work space is set as same as pic(in my case aRGB), 3)Printer profile, use aRGB or do i use the profile for the paper i am using in my printer(in my case Canon printer profile sp1)?

WE need a sticky of Profile flow that answers those 3 questions and there will be less threads on the matter. thanks to those helping us figure it out!

See https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=992923&po​stcount=25

Thanks for the link post...and yet another monitor profile is suggested....they say to use sRGB.?????