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Nov 26, 2012 12:48 |  #571

^^I agree, and pulled the trigger on a T4i this morning, stepping up from the T1i. I'm really looking forward to getting to experiment with the off camera flash controls on the T4i (and although that was also on the T3i the 5.0fps helped push me over the edge (external link).


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Nov 26, 2012 17:05 |  #572

wayne.robbins wrote in post #15289349 (external link)
They are similar as far as sensor is concerned- in only one respect- their output is the same as 18 MP is when it comes to Canon. People are silly when their "it's the same" is based upon one particular spec; the sensor in the 7D is at least 3+ years old. I do agree that most of the time- if a camera manufacturer is happy with the sensor- they just re-utilize it in the next models- like they in some of the cameras following the T2i/7D.. But the most improvements come when Canon is forced to redesign or truly upgrade - the most important piece of the camera- the sensor. When it's redesigned- it often means that other aspects might get reconsidered as well- like ISO capability, noise handling, AA filters, etc.. The t4i does not have the same sensor- it's got hybrid AF sensors that Canon had to redesign for.. At the same time- they updated the sensor for higher ISO capabilities, noise, etc.. The 7D's native ISO tops out at 6400, and the t4i- tops out at 12,800.. I do recall seeing the specs .

Somewhere someone posted a link to a youtube video comparison of a 60d and a T4i (I wish Canon would go with that Euro naming scheme here in the US too - the 650d is just fine with me as a name), and in the important aspects, important to me anyway, that is, normal lighting, middle-range ISO, the picture quality is pretty much indistinguishable. That's why I said they are about the same. I know they upgraded the autofocus substantially (external link), but that doesn't affect picture quality.

I did go back today and look at a picture of a glass of beer I posted here a week or two ago, taken at ISO 1600. Might be difficult to tell on the low resolution picture I posted here, but looking on my computer fully zoomed in the noise level is still very low. With my Xsi, the noise at 400 was probably higher, and I considered ISO 800 to be unusable.


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Nov 30, 2012 20:37 |  #573

^^ Well, you do understand that for most pictures under well lit circumstances- most cameras are actually - very similar in IQ and the overall results. The other thing that most people don't understand or realize is - most homes are not very well lit. I'm not arguing- by the way.. In my opinion- a picture mid range on the 60D (1600 ISO ) should look similar to one take by a T4i at 1600 ISO. The differences in models is usually at the extremes... For example, if you are shooting high shutter speeds - like 1/8000th ( or 1/4000th routinely)- then the 60D is better for you.. If you are shooting ISO 3200 with a relatively low shutter speed- then the T4i might be better.. At ISO 6400- I'd lay odds on the t4i looking better- SOOC.. With noise reduction software- the 60D might be equal- or it may not... But - in the end- it's at the extremes that cameras are different- not usually mid range or in well lit situations. Daylight, outdoors- an XSI or XTI is probably just as good as the t4i or 60D. It's just the way that camera gear works...


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Nov 30, 2012 22:12 |  #574

Just seems you never see this camera in any stores or ads. All T3's and T3i's. Just finally started to see tv spots for it (the tire on fire going down the hill).


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Nov 30, 2012 22:27 |  #575

wayne.robbins wrote in post #15310556 (external link)
Daylight, outdoors- an XSI or XTI is probably just as good as the t4i or 60D. It's just the way that camera gear works...

My humble Xsi did produce some pretty good stuff, I'm seeing some improvement with the T4i in some situations (WB seems more accurate for one), but I think you are correct for the most part. That's quite a gear list, so I'm thinking you are going to know about differences among cameras.

(so quiet here, I'll maybe try to just post some junk, except with the new computer I can't seem to figure out how to squash a photo down below 150k. so far at least)


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Dec 01, 2012 07:51 |  #576

according to Amazon the T4i is now their #3 best selling DSLR... don't know how accurate that is, but...


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Dec 01, 2012 22:04 as a reply to  @ JasonMK's post |  #577

Picked up a new lens, so was running around looking for something with some texture to try the thing out, found these rusty bolts on a walking bridge. Did look sharper before being cropped and reduced from 6 mb to about 120k.


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Dec 02, 2012 08:04 |  #578

Nifty fifty @ f1.8 1/1600 ISO 400 with a EX580 II bounced off a white wall
Beetroot juice dropped into water, btw :)

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Dec 02, 2012 08:12 |  #579

^^^^^ nice.


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Dec 02, 2012 23:59 |  #580

My first DSLR was an XTi. It has been a great camera and it has suited me well after all these years. It was a hard decision on whether I wanted to step up to the 60D or T4i. After 2 weeks of contemplating I decided to go with the T4i. The main reason is that I am familiar with the rebel layout. Also I like the weight and size of the camera. I was able to get a good deal on cyber monday. I used it for the first time this weekend at my son's hockey game. The auto focus was unbelievably fast and it worked extremely well in the low light of the ice arena. At first I didn't know if I would like the touch screen but it is very cool! I plan on taking lots of pics with this camera and some video too.


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Dec 03, 2012 00:32 |  #581

hikermk wrote in post #15318852 (external link)
My first DSLR was an XTi. It has been a great camera and it has suited me well after all these years. It was a hard decision on whether I wanted to step up to the 60D or T4i. After 2 weeks of contemplating I decided to go with the T4i. The main reason is that I am familiar with the rebel layout. Also I like the weight and size of the camera. I was able to get a good deal on cyber monday. I used it for the first time this weekend at my son's hockey game. The auto focus was unbelievably fast and it worked extremely well in the low light of the ice arena. At first I didn't know if I would like the touch screen but it is very cool! I plan on taking lots of pics with this camera and some video too.

The more I use the t4i the more I enjoy it. Touch screen is really neat for when you need it - when you don't there's no problem just ignoring it, given complete "traditional" button controls.

The build quality is excellent, features are extensive/rich, form factor/ergonomics are super. And of course most importantly the image quality capabilities (always at the mercy of the quality of the lens being used) are outstanding.

Shooting RAW 18meg 5184x3456, about 6 frames/sec it's hard to complain about what you can't do with this camera body. With a long telephoto it's got amazing reach for outstanding quality image. With a small lens (e.g., 40mm pancake) it's downright discrete. With a macro lens, it's simply amazing.

Sticking within reasonable ISO range and knowing the unique strengths/weaknesses of whatever lens you're using, it's hard to imagine how one could really need more than what the t4i can offer. That's not to suggest there aren't some awesome Canon cameras well beyond the t4i specs. But dollar for dollar, I am just blown away by how little the t4i costs for what it delivers.

In short, for the price, I can't imagine more value per ounce. Couldn't be more pleased.


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Dec 03, 2012 09:42 |  #582

^^ +1

I'm a novice and have my T4i and am very pleased. Have plenty to learn and this camera give me a lot of room for growth.




  
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Dec 03, 2012 10:30 |  #583

Not sure if this has been posted...but there's a great deal on the T4i right now if anyone is waiting for one. It's $699 for the T4i with the 18-55 and 55-250.

http://slickdeals.net …55mm-lens-55250mm-is-lens (external link)

You could even sell one or both of the lenses if you already have them and make this an even better deal!




  
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Dec 03, 2012 11:16 |  #584

It looks sort of like an afterthought attached to a Sigma 50-500mm OS lens, but the images are pretty good.

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Dec 04, 2012 13:14 |  #585

Here's a look at some videos (live music) I shot this weekend with my T4i and 40mm pancake, if anyone is interested:

http://www.youtube.com …ukv6wu0vQtcz8gM​MKJSSIehTG (external link)




  
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