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Jun 20, 2012 12:33 |  #1

I choose the 50mm 1.8 over the 18-55mm Kit Lens, It works great. Now i'm looking to get another lens within a $200-$230 Price Range. I was going to get the 18-55mm just because of the 18mm Capabilities, But honestly, with the 50mm, I just take a few steps back & then everything is in Frame, So it's not much of an Issue really. Now i'm looking at getting a Zoom/Telephoto Lens. I was recommended the Canon EFS 55-250mm for $179 on Amazon aka The Nifty two fitty.

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Everyone says it's a great deal, But before i make the purchase, Is there anything better within the Price Range?


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Jun 20, 2012 12:43 |  #2

No, there isn't. There are not many lenses under $300 that are good. As far as telephotos in that price range, the Nifty Two-Fifty is the best.


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Jun 20, 2012 12:47 as a reply to  @ tempest68's post |  #3

Ok that's what i figured, Just wanted to make sure.


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Jun 20, 2012 12:53 |  #4

Nifty Two-Fifty is a nice next choice...but I find myself outgrowing it rather quickly. The focus is loud and rather slow and it hunts in low light...IQ is pretty nice though.


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Jun 20, 2012 13:52 |  #5

I think a used 28-135 would be a good choice. Can be had for 230, I waited awhile but got one at that price. Its on the camera most of the time.

Little lens creep to get used to, but it rocks for a none L lens.

Don't buy junk because you'll never be happy. Some may call the 28-135 junk but I haven't been convinced to upgrade that range to L yet.




  
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Jun 20, 2012 14:46 |  #6

The 28-135 was the first lens I thought of, too.

It's a good lens with a nice range of focal lengths for a "walk-around". So many have been sold as kit lenses on 40, 50 and 60Ds, it's quite common to find it at nice prices on the used market. I paid $250 for one a couple years ago, that was like new, included the lens hood, a 72mm B+W MRC UV filter (that I promptly removed), both caps and shipping. I sometimes see them on my local Craigslist for as little as $200 or $225.

It's the third copy of this lens I've used and they've been consistently good. It's an EF lens with fast, quiet, accurate USM focus; is close focusing; has IS; and is decent "mid-grade/gold stripe" build. I bought it as a backup to my 24-70 and to be able to put on one of backup cameras as a loaner, should someone assisting me need a camera and lens.

But I sometimes use it for other reasons. My usual kit for equestrian events is 300/4 IS (sometimes with 1.4X teleconverter), 70-200/2.8 IS, 24-70/2.8 and a Tokina 12-24 for the occasional wide shot. However, those lenses and a pair of 7Ds make for a fairly backpack. When I know I'm going to have to hike a lot and am confident I'll have good light, I'll sometimes leave the 24-70 and 70-200 in the car and just take the 28-135 instead. You might say it's standing in for two L-series lenses.

The 55-250 might be a better choice for you, if you need that much reach. It's an EF-S lens, and doesn't have USM focus, so is slower, noisier and more erratic. But it's got good image quality, and is reasonably compact. It seems a little better built than the 18-55 IS or 50/1.8, but still is fairly plasticky.

I'm not claiming the 28-135 is a match for the 24-70L or 24-105L... It's simply not built or sealed as well as the two L-series. It's ever so slightly less sharp at focal lengths they all share and, in particular, a wee bit soft all the way out at 135mm. But you'll have a pretty hard time spotting the differences unless you make really big prints from each. Not anywhere near as much difference in IQ as you might expect from a lens that costs between 3X and 6X more.

Below are some images made with the 28-135 at various focal lengths...

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Lucinda & Cisco 6th Obstacle, 2011 ACTHA Ride for the Mustangs, Hossmoor Ranch
EF 28-135mm lens at 47mm and f7.1. EOS 7D at ISO 400, 1/1000 shutter speed. Handheld, avail. light.


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Ready to go. 2011 ACTHA Ride for the Mustangs, Hossmoor Ranch
EF 28-135mm lens at 100mm and f7.1. EOS 7D at ISO 400, 1/800 shutter speed. Handheld, avail. light.


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Good boy! 2011 ACTHA Ride for the Mustangs, Hossmoor Ranch
EF 28-135mm lens at 117mm and f7.1. EOS 7D at ISO 400, 1/800 shutter speed. Handheld, avail. light.


I'm pretty happy when I can count individual hairs and eyelashes and see every stitch in a horse's bridle.

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Approaching Obstacle 6 2011 ACTHA Ride for the Mustangs, Hossmoor Ranch
EF 28-135mm lens at 135mm and f7.1. EOS 7D at ISO 400, 1/800 shutter speed. Handheld, avail. light.


This last image is not so great, I'm not wild about the pose or backdrop. But it is shot at 135mm and you can see a bit of loss of fine detail in the enlargement, to see how this lens performs "at it's worst".

Some will tell you that a 24-whatever or 28-whatever lens is "not good" on a crop camera. They'll tell you that you "need" to buy a 17-whatever. Well, I disagree. I really like both 24-70 and 28-135 that I use. Wouldn't mind the 24-105 either. It's a convenient and versatile range of focal lengths for me. Note that I pair up with a 12-24mm ultrawide (there are a number of UWA possible) that complements either of the walk-around zooms quite well.

28-135mm is far from junk... In fact IMO it's one of the best deals in Canon lenses, particularly when bought lightly used. No other lens gives similar range of focal lengths and this combo of features, as well as decent build quality, focus performance and image quality, for so little money. It's sort of the Rodney Dangerfield of Canon lenses... it gets no respect!

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Jun 20, 2012 15:00 |  #7

28-135 even photozone.de gives it three stars from five, which is good.
But, IMO, 55-250 is better for OP. With f5.6 at 200 he will get better bokeh for portraits compare to 135 and f5.6. And 250 is much more versatile compare to 135.
18-55, 50 1.8 and 55-250 is well known combo here, at P.O.T.N.
Gives best possible range for best possible money, good IQ. And each of three lenses are easy to upgrade to better analogue.


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Jun 20, 2012 15:51 |  #8

A reasonably useful lens in the US $300 range is a Tamron 18-200mm lens,  (external link)which generated these images.

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The Tamron lens also is often available with a rebate. (external link) That discount drops its price right at US $300.

DJHaze596 wrote in post #14606626 (external link)
I choose the 50mm 1.8 over the 18-55mm Kit

Lens, It works great. Now i'm looking to get another lens within a $200-$230 Price Range. I was going to get the 18-55mm just because of the 18mm Capabilities, But honestly, with the 50mm, I just take a few steps back & then everything is in Frame, So it's not much of an Issue really. Now i'm looking at getting a Zoom/Telephoto Lens. I was recommended the Canon EFS 55-250mm for $179 on Amazon aka The Nifty two fitty.

http://www.amazon.com …/B0056E49MK/ref​=pd_cp_p_0 (external link)

Everyone says it's a great deal, But before i make the purchase, Is there anything better within the Price Range?




  
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Jun 20, 2012 16:36 |  #9

kf095 wrote in post #14607329 (external link)
But, IMO, 55-250 is better for OP. With f5.6 at 200 he will get better bokeh for portraits compare to 135 and f5.6. And 250 is much more versatile compare to 135.
18-55, 50 1.8 and 55-250 is well known combo here, at P.O.T.N.
Gives best possible range for best possible money, good IQ. And each of three lenses are easy to upgrade to better analogue.

sure, the 55-250IS and 18-55IS are both is significantly sharper than the 28-135
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Jun 20, 2012 16:49 |  #10

what about getting a 18-55 IS for around $100, then finding a 70-210 3.5-4.5 USM for around $160


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Jun 20, 2012 17:07 as a reply to  @ kwando's post |  #11

To be honest, I kind of want to stick with the Bokeh and i think the 55-250mm is almost perfect. But i'm still having an open mind with other lenses.


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DJHaze596 wrote in post #14607933 (external link)
To be honest, I kind of want to stick with the Bokeh and i think the 55-250mm is almost perfect. But i'm still having an open mind with other lenses.

yes, keep an open mind but for $200 -$300, for "bokeh", sharpness, focal range, etc.
the 55-250IS is your lens , and it's only $169 !

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Jun 20, 2012 17:19 |  #13

DJHaze596 wrote in post #14606626 (external link)
But honestly, with the 50mm, I just take a few steps back & then everything is in Frame, So it's not much of an Issue really.

The fact that you can say this means you don't know what you are missing! It's not true at all. Your "few steps" might be a mile for outdoor scenery.

Get the 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS. Used, you could find both for about $230-250.


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Jun 20, 2012 18:27 |  #14

tkbslc wrote in post #14607974 (external link)
The fact that you can say this means you don't know what you are missing! It's not true at all. Your "few steps" might be a mile for outdoor scenery.

Get the 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS. Used, you could find both for about $230-250.

Well yeah, That's why i want to get the 55-250mm. I was comparing the 50mm to the 18-55mm. The 55-250mm will mainly be used for Outdoor. I'm going to try to get Both Lenses, I looked on ebay, they have the 18-55mm for $60. But i don't know if its reliable enough. I'm a little itchy about buying Used lenses.


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Jun 20, 2012 18:42 |  #15

DJHaze596 wrote in post #14608227 (external link)
Well yeah, That's why i want to get the 55-250mm. I was comparing the 50mm to the 18-55mm. The 55-250mm will mainly be used for Outdoor. I'm going to try to get Both Lenses, I looked on ebay, they have the 18-55mm for $60. But i don't know if its reliable enough. I'm a little itchy about buying Used lenses.

If it is offered as in working condition, nothing to worry about. It is better build compare to 50 1.8 II.


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