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Jun 20, 2012 20:36 |  #1

I am shooting the summer league games for my old HS team.
A few from Tuesday night:
#1. Bad throw at first. Turned out to be the winning run...

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#2. Eying a bad pitch
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#3. Congratulations on the RBI.
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#4. After that, there was a lot of attempted steals...
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Jun 20, 2012 20:55 |  #2

None of these are keepers.


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Jun 20, 2012 22:18 |  #3

I will have to agree with Dave, the 3 you posted are not keepers. I looked through your gallery and noticed you have a lot of shots of players backs which is a delete in camera imo, several soft images which could attributed to shooting through the fence and your exposures seems all over the place. Pic #10 in your gallery cropped a little tighter would be the only keeper in my book.


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Jun 20, 2012 23:41 |  #4

Delete, delete, delete, delete.
1. Overexposed, head in the way of the key action in the photo - the scoop. Focus way off
2. Nothing happening...a pitch going into a glove. So what? Contrast off
3. Of the two players who are the key focal point here, one is blocked - delete
4. Pick off plays from this angle are always tough as you often don't get faces...thus no good for me.

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Jun 21, 2012 04:40 as a reply to  @ cstewart's post |  #5

Thanks for the comments.
The fence is a definite problem and field access is restricted due to past injuries.

Maybe I can shoot from the dugouts and avoid the fence.

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1. Overexposed, head in the way of the key action in the photo - the scoop. Focus way off

I posted this one, focused on the runner, DOF too shallow to pick up the already passed ball at the edge of the grass.
I debated with the helmet in the foreground, clearly (or not) the passed ball is not obvious.


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Jun 21, 2012 07:12 |  #6

I think you need more help on these images. You got some good advice and some wrong advice.

First, image one may be OOF, but I think the real technical problem here is the slow shutter speed is causing motion blur, and it’s a heavy crop (your focal length was 145). Your EXIF states your shutter was at 1/400. To freeze the runner and to get sharper images you want a shutter speed of at least 1/800. You’re shooting with a 7D, so don’t be afraid to raise your ISO to 1600 to keep your SS up if necessary. I also see you were shooting in manual mode for this image which is great…all you need to do is raise your ISO so you can increase your shutter speed. It also appears that your ISO is set to auto, as each image seems to have a different ISO setting.

Here is what I would suggest doing. Keep the exposure setting to Manual, set your shutter speed to 1/1000, set your aperture at f/4, then take your ISO off auto and set it so that you get a proper exposure. You’ll need to keep an eye on the images as you shoot and as you change position, but within a couple of games I think you’ll get a good handle on it. It’s better to learn the basics at the very beginning rather than later on.
As far as shooting through the fence, that’s not a big deal. Here is a shot from behind the fence. It did take a little PP (mostly adding contrast and adding some black) to completely make the fence disappear. And this was shot with a 400mm 2.8 so I was not able to shoot between the fence, but actually through it. With a 70-200 you should be able to shoot between the links and not have to do too much PP.

IMAGE: http://www.robison-photography.com/img/s3/v45/p367238373-5.jpg

As far the composure is concerned, I’d agree with everything said here. For a shot to be interesting you need three things, action, ball, and faces(s). Baseball is like every sport, you’ll never be in position to get all of the great shots of a game. You’ll always miss great shoots due to position.

For baseball, here is how I’ll tackle a game.
First two innings I’ll setup near the home teams dugout. From there I’ll get shots of the starting pitchers (doesn’t really matter if the pitchers are right or left handed, I’ll always get a complete series from both sided) and any left handed batters. I’ll also keep an eye all runners on base. It’s good to review the stats of the players before the game so you know who the aggressive players are that steal a lot of bases. If the opposing pitcher is any good he’ll work on keeping those players checked, and you’ll always be ready to capture it, as well as if the runner tries to take second. From this spot you’ll also have good position for any play at second and third base as well as home plate.

As soon as there has been a complete rotation of batters from both teams, I’ll move to the other side of the field near the visitor’s dugout. From here I’ll again get images of the pitchers, and then the right handed batters. This position is also a great place to get good shots of the infield worming up between innings.

After a complete rotation of batters from this side I'll then move to behind the backstop and get images of the pitcher (like the image above) of both pitchers. This will then typically leave me with at least two innings to play around to see what I can get with the field I have to work with. A good exercise to get in a habit of doing is at each play think to yourself, where would have been the best place I could have been to get that shoot? Then look to see if that spot is available. You'll quickly learn where good spots or for that field. I've found each field is different and offers different opportunities. The last two innings is when I'll try and capitalize on the opportunities it has to offer.

It could be behind first base:
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It could be high up with the score keepers:
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It could be behind (or in this case under the fence) at right field:
IMAGE: http://www.robison-photography.com/img/s3/v43/p698677745-4.jpg

Or it could be behind the back fence (not the best quality image but you get the point...I hope. LOL)
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Jun 21, 2012 07:15 as a reply to  @ V4her's post |  #7

Imagine that same moment that you've captured in #4 but that next time you are shooting it from the 1st base side so that the runner's face is looking straight at you as he dives back to the bag.

That same position will also be good for shooting the action at second base on a double play or even routine throws to first by any of the infielders.

Shoot and post your next efforts.

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Jun 21, 2012 07:52 |  #8

V4her wrote in post #14610308 (external link)
Thanks for the comments.
The fence is a definite problem and field access is restricted due to past injuries.

Maybe I can shoot from the dugouts and avoid the fence.

I agree with the others, get inside the park. And the pics you posted seem not too sharp and overexposed, I don't know whether that's a shooting thru the fence issue or just wrong settings.




  
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Jun 21, 2012 11:11 as a reply to  @ watt100's post |  #9

Thanks much Warren. The ISO varied as the game progressed. I never shoot auto ISO, but I will raise the ISO and shutter speed to start with.


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Jun 21, 2012 13:58 |  #10

V4her wrote in post #14610308 (external link)
Thanks for the comments.
The fence is a definite problem and field access is restricted due to past injuries.

Maybe I can shoot from the dugouts and avoid the fence.

Cstewart:
I posted this one, focused on the runner, DOF too shallow to pick up the already passed ball at the edge of the grass.
I debated with the helmet in the foreground, clearly (or not) the passed ball is not obvious.

Yes, but the runner is out of focus as well so your DOF in this case does not make a difference. DOF will not help a shot that is all OOF.


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Jun 21, 2012 14:20 |  #11

Yes, but the runner is out of focus as well so your DOF in this case does not make a difference. DOF will not help a shot that is all OOF.

I am due for my annual eye exam :oops:.


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Jun 21, 2012 15:01 |  #12

I think the issue with number one, composition aside, is motion blur due to the slow shutter speed, and not so much as OOF. Not trying to split hairs, but trying to convey what will fix the issue. :D And at that distance and focal length and distance the DOF will be at close if not more then 4 feet. So DOF should not be an issue. ;-)a


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Jun 21, 2012 22:32 |  #13

dwarrenr wrote in post #14612630 (external link)
I think the issue with number one, composition aside, is motion blur due to the slow shutter speed, and not so much as OOF. Not trying to split hairs, but trying to convey what will fix the issue. :D And at that distance and focal length and distance the DOF will be at close if not more then 4 feet. So DOF should not be an issue. ;-)a

I believe you are correct. There isn't even an area anywhere in the frame that is sharp.


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Jun 24, 2012 08:52 |  #14

Got the new t3i and cant figure out how to remove the fence all shot are showing the fence errrrrr




  
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Jun 25, 2012 14:48 |  #15

^i've found that with baseball and having a fence in front of you, usually the higher your shutter speed the less of the fence you see or even to the point where the fence doesn't even show at all.


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