Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
Thread started 21 Jun 2012 (Thursday) 15:57
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

24-105 Bokeh Quality?

 
pxchoi
Goldmember
1,146 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Aug 2009
     
Jun 21, 2012 15:57 |  #1

How's the bokeh quality on the 24-105 - Let's say, the 24-105 on full frame vs 17-55 on APS-C, similar field of view and framing.

The reason I ask... I have a 7D + 17-55 and I might bite the bullet on a 5DIII. I would go for the 24-70, but the extra reach on the 24-105 sound tempting.


Patrick Choi
Portfolio (external link) | Flickr (external link) | Facebook (external link)
EOS 7D | 580EX II | 10-22mm f3.5-f4.5 | 17-55mm f/2.8 IS |70-200mm f/2.8L IS II
For Sale: 17-55mm f/2.8 IS | 10-22mm f3.5-f4.5

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
gonzogolf
dumb remark memorialized
30,270 posts
Gallery: 296 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8902
Joined Dec 2006
     
Jun 21, 2012 16:02 |  #2

IMAGE: http://kevin-jones.smugmug.com/People/Shelby/i-Q7CzZxJ/0/XL/IMG8910-XL.jpg

Remember bokeh is the quality of the blur, not the amount.. This is shot at 85 MM on a 5D @F4



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Rush87
Senior Member
Avatar
291 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jan 2011
Location: Qc
     
Jun 21, 2012 16:05 |  #3

The background will be more blurry with the 24-105 on a FF camera.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TweakMDS
Goldmember
Avatar
2,242 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Nov 2008
Location: Netherlands
     
Jun 21, 2012 16:30 |  #4

Not a lot of OOF in these, but here's just two recent examples from the 24-105 on a 5D that pleasantly surprised me:

IMAGE: http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6223/6264455962_114a90ea1e_z.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/mdstoop/6264455​962/  (external link)
Oliemeulen (external link) by Michael Stoop (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6214/6264455680_f9cb9b04c5_z.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/mdstoop/6264455​680/  (external link)
Oliemeulen (external link) by Michael Stoop (external link), on Flickr

Some of my lenses focus beyond infinity...!
~Michael
Gear | Flickr (external link)
"My featured shots" (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
pxchoi
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
1,146 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Aug 2009
     
Jun 21, 2012 16:58 |  #5

gonzogolf wrote in post #14612897 (external link)
QUOTED IMAGE

Remember bokeh is the quality of the blur, not the amount.. This is shot at 85 MM on a 5D @F4

Yes, I am aware of that. Thank you for sharing your image. Looks good enough to me.


Patrick Choi
Portfolio (external link) | Flickr (external link) | Facebook (external link)
EOS 7D | 580EX II | 10-22mm f3.5-f4.5 | 17-55mm f/2.8 IS |70-200mm f/2.8L IS II
For Sale: 17-55mm f/2.8 IS | 10-22mm f3.5-f4.5

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
NG8JGFX
Senior Member
Avatar
741 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 346
Joined Mar 2011
Location: Southern CA
     
Jun 21, 2012 17:09 |  #6

I HAVE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH MY 24-105 ON THE 5dII

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO

MyCanonPhotos (external link) facebook (external link)
Tenba 32L, 5D IV, 5D III, 7D II, 8 Lenses, Three 600 EX-RT's, ST-E3-RT +

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kin2son
Goldmember
4,546 posts
Likes: 3
Joined May 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia
     
Jun 21, 2012 17:19 |  #7
bannedPermanent ban

F4 on ff produces shallower dof than f2.8 on crop. Bokeh on the 24-105 is excellent imo.

Here's one at f4 -

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Redirected to error image by FLICKR

IMG_4965 (external link) by kin2son (external link), on Flickr

5D3 Gripped / 17-40L / Σ35 / 40 Pancake / Zeiss 50 MP / Σ85 / 100L Macro / 70-200 f2.8L II IS / 430 EX II / 580 EX II / Canon 2xIII TC / Kenko Ext. Tubes
EOS M / EF-M 18-55 / EF-M 22f2 / Ricoh GR aka Ultimate street camera :p
Flickr (external link) | My Images on Getty®‎ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
pyrojim
Goldmember
1,882 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Jan 2010
Location: San Jose, CA
     
Jun 21, 2012 17:20 |  #8

kin2son wrote in post #14613194 (external link)
F4 on ff produces shallower dof than f2.8 on crop. Bokeh on the 24-105 is excellent imo

here we go again.....

no it doesn't.


PhaseOne H25
Camera agnostic

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kin2son
Goldmember
4,546 posts
Likes: 3
Joined May 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia
     
Jun 21, 2012 17:34 |  #9
bannedPermanent ban

pyrojim wrote in post #14613202 (external link)
here we go again.....

no it doesn't.

Well please educate me.

Fact - f2.8 on crop will always produce ~f4.5 dof ff equivalent, regardless of focal length/FoV. Unless ofc you are talking about aps-h.


5D3 Gripped / 17-40L / Σ35 / 40 Pancake / Zeiss 50 MP / Σ85 / 100L Macro / 70-200 f2.8L II IS / 430 EX II / 580 EX II / Canon 2xIII TC / Kenko Ext. Tubes
EOS M / EF-M 18-55 / EF-M 22f2 / Ricoh GR aka Ultimate street camera :p
Flickr (external link) | My Images on Getty®‎ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Rocky ­ Rhode
Goldmember
Avatar
1,416 posts
Likes: 6
Joined Apr 2011
Location: Sacramento
     
Jun 21, 2012 17:48 as a reply to  @ kin2son's post |  #10

Use the link and input the values for yourself;

http://www.dofmaster.c​om/dofjs.html (external link)

Select a crop camera with 50mm and f2.8
Select a FF camera with 50mm and f/4

Compare the DOF


GEAR LIST Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
taemo
Goldmember
1,243 posts
Likes: 7
Joined Sep 2011
Location: Calgary, AB
     
Jun 21, 2012 17:56 |  #11

it's not bad, hence why I'm really happy with mine

here's one at f/8

IMAGE: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7225/7260462288_84dc1aa1dd.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/itaemo/72604622​88/  (external link)
IMG_7817-5D (external link) by earl.dieta (external link), on Flickr

and at f/4
IMAGE: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7084/7260485786_92da55ea88.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/itaemo/72604857​86/  (external link)
IMG_7772-5D (external link) by earl.dieta (external link), on Flickr

earldieta.com (external link) - flickr (external link) - tumblr (external link) - gear/feedback
the spirit is willing but the body is sore and squishy
4 digital cameras | 14 film cameras

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
L.J.G.
"Not brigth enough"
Avatar
10,463 posts
Gallery: 8 photos
Likes: 45
Joined Jul 2010
Location: ɹǝpun uʍop
     
Jun 21, 2012 18:07 |  #12

IMAGE: http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6056/6866540500_3c28f078cd_o.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …/53004189@N05/6​866540500/  (external link)
All tied up but nowhere to go (external link) by LJG_Images (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5071/7181387091_6c935816f5_o.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …/53004189@N05/7​181387091/  (external link)
Shantelle (external link) by LJG_Images (external link), on Flickr

Lloyd
Never make the same mistake twice, there are so many new ones, try a different one each day
Gear Flick (external link)r

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
grasshopper315
Member
116 posts
Gallery: 10 photos
Likes: 40
Joined Apr 2012
Location: PA
     
Jun 21, 2012 18:08 |  #13

Here's an interesting read on dof crop vs ff when trying to maintain same perspective. Scroll 1/2 way down the page.

http://www.cambridgein​colour.com …al-camera-sensor-size.htm (external link)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kin2son
Goldmember
4,546 posts
Likes: 3
Joined May 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia
     
Jun 21, 2012 18:12 |  #14
bannedPermanent ban

Rocky Rhode wrote in post #14613298 (external link)
Use the link and input the values for yourself;

http://www.dofmaster.c​om/dofjs.html (external link)

Select a crop camera with 50mm and f2.8
Select a FF camera with 50mm and f/4

Compare the DOF

But that won't get you the same perspective....

It should really be a crop camera with 50mm f2.8 compared to a ff camera with 80mm f4...


5D3 Gripped / 17-40L / Σ35 / 40 Pancake / Zeiss 50 MP / Σ85 / 100L Macro / 70-200 f2.8L II IS / 430 EX II / 580 EX II / Canon 2xIII TC / Kenko Ext. Tubes
EOS M / EF-M 18-55 / EF-M 22f2 / Ricoh GR aka Ultimate street camera :p
Flickr (external link) | My Images on Getty®‎ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
elader
Goldmember
Avatar
2,374 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Nov 2005
Location: Maryland
     
Jun 21, 2012 18:14 |  #15

Rocky Rhode wrote in post #14613298 (external link)
Use the link and input the values for yourself;

http://www.dofmaster.c​om/dofjs.html (external link)

Select a crop camera with 50mm and f2.8
Select a FF camera with 50mm and f/4

Compare the DOF


but to get the same image framing, you'll have to move in closer and then the dof will be smaller or use a larger focal length and the dof will be smaller.


Eric
FJR1300 rider
5D mkIII and 1D MkIII

16-35L | 24-105L | 70-200L f/2.8IS | 85 f/1.8 / 50 f.1,4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

23,512 views & 0 likes for this thread
24-105 Bokeh Quality?
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Zochor
859 guests, 270 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.