Jun 22, 2012 15:29 | #1 I like this picture but something seems off to me and I cant put my finger on it. What could I have done to make this better? [Nikon D810] [Nikon 24-70 f/2.8] [Nikon 70-200 f/2.8] [Nikon 85 f/1.4] [Einstein E640's]
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HiepBuiPhotography Goldmember 1,612 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2012 Location: Harrisburg, PA More info | Jun 22, 2012 15:34 | #2 I think you could have shot it in landscape orientation. There's nothing above her except that painting, which takes away from the picture anyways. Could have left more room at the bottom to show more of the bed and her fingers. A better expression from the person/model would have also helped. She looks a little out of it. Hiep Bui Photography | Harrisburg Wedding Photographer
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joedlh Cream of the Crop 5,511 posts Gallery: 52 photos Likes: 684 Joined Dec 2007 Location: Long Island, NY, N. America, Sol III, Orion Spur, Milky Way, Local Group, Virgo Cluster, Laniakea. More info | Jun 22, 2012 16:01 | #3 The only thing that bothers me is the out-of-focus face above the subject. Is there some connection? It's not obvious. If not, it's just a distraction. Was the flash the source of the light on her right side? Maybe too far too the side. The light looks a little cool too. Joe
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Jun 22, 2012 21:40 | #4 I agree about the photo above the subject it is very distracting. Definitely recommend removing it. Also what am I seeing on the right side of the nose. Might consider bumping temperature up a bit. With a few tweaks I think you would have a good image. Bill R
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NatureNut Goldmember 1,366 posts Likes: 2 Joined May 2012 Location: NY More info | Jun 22, 2012 21:49 | #5 One additional thing that I would fix is the dark fade on the right side (her left) eye. It kinda looks like she has a black eye if you focus on just the eye, and almost blends into the dark hair. Not critical just something I noticed. Adam - Upstate NY:
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Thorrulz Goldmember More info | Jun 22, 2012 23:23 | #6 NinjaKix wrote in post #14617414 ![]() I like this picture but something seems off to me and I cant put my finger on it. What could I have done to make this better? If you would turn image editing on I could show you an edit I created from a couple of photoshop masters. Not saying I am up to their class in workmanship/editing skills but I am learning. Flickr
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Jun 23, 2012 00:07 | #7 Thorrulz wrote in post #14619301 If you would turn image editing on I could show you an edit I created from a couple of photoshop masters. Not saying I am up to their class in workmanship/editing skills but I am learning. Ok it's on. [Nikon D810] [Nikon 24-70 f/2.8] [Nikon 70-200 f/2.8] [Nikon 85 f/1.4] [Einstein E640's]
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Lloydd Senior Member 379 posts Likes: 152 Joined Nov 2010 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Be careful with the pic in the background, with it so far from the subject it becomes a subject itself. And the dark line separating them both makes that more obvious. Image hosted by forum (602314) © Lloydd [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff. Image hosted by forum (602315) © Lloydd [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff.
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Thorrulz Goldmember More info | Jun 23, 2012 06:09 | #9 NinjaKix wrote in post #14617414 ![]() I like this picture but something seems off to me and I cant put my finger on it. What could I have done to make this better? Thanks for the permission to give it a go. DSC_0854 What I did was: The subject is laying her head down on her arms so that will help flatten the face. On a female client you want to preferably "slim" the body & face just a bit. I first opened the pic in photoshop and copied a new layer. Then used the (Control+T) shortcut and took the overall width down to no more than 95% ffrom 100%. If you do this step women tend to like the photo more due to their face and body tends to look less "fat". I went a step further and opened the new layer up with the liquify filter and stretched the lower chin portion a tad and used the forward warp tool on the right side of the subjects face to reverse the compression that gets introduced from them posing in that manner. Now the most important part of this step and trust me this came straight from Scott Kelby, Don't ever tell them you did it. Let them believe the lie, and they will everytime. Just don't overdue it. Next I smoothed the skin just a bit. brightened the eyes and smoothed plus darkened the lips. I used the curves layer to lighten the shadows part of the image. Not much but I concentrated on the left portion of the subjects face and hair. I created a black and white layer and set the opacity to around 20% overlayed with the luminosity selection. Now to create a frame within a frame I personally liked, I created a new layer and selected the brush size and color using the upper dark line going across the headboard. I used the brush set to zero hardness because of the scenes settings. Thanks again for the permission and I think it is a great image even if all you would do is just the 95% rule and the border without any more processing. Flickr
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rmsprs Member 40 posts Joined Jul 2011 More info | Jun 23, 2012 06:13 | #10 Thorrulz wrote in post #14619992 Thanks for the permission to give it a go. ![]() DSC_0854 What I did was: The subject is laying her head down on her arms so that will help flatten the face. On a female client you want to preferably "slim" the body & face just a bit. I first opened the pic in photoshop and copied a new layer. Then used the (Control+T) shortcut and took the overall width down to no more than 95% ffrom 100%. If you do this step women tend to like the photo more due to their face and body tends to look less "fat". I went a step further and opened the new layer up with the liquify filter and stretched the lower chin portion a tad and used the forward warp tool on the right side of the subjects face to reverse the compression that gets introduced from them posing in that manner. Now the most important part of this step and trust me this came straight from Scott Kelby, Don't ever tell them you did it. Let them believe the lie, and they will everytime. Just don't overdue it. Next I smoothed the skin just a bit. brightened the eyes and smoothed plus darkened the lips. I used the curves layer to lighten the shadows part of the image. Not much but I concentrated on the left portion of the subjects face and hair. I created a black and white layer and set the opacity to around 20% overlayed with the luminosity selection. Now to create a frame within a frame I personally liked, I created a new layer and selected the brush size and color using the upper dark line going across the headboard. I used the brush set to zero hardness because of the scenes settings. Thanks again for the permission and I think it is a great image even if all you would do is just the 95% rule and the border without any more processing.
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Thorrulz Goldmember More info | Jun 23, 2012 06:35 | #11 rmsprs wrote in post #14620002 sorry but her faces now seems awkward, and I believe she looked prettier in the original image posted here... That is why I stated that even if you only use the 95% rule and a border it is still a very good image. Face molding and restructuring is subjective and a personal taste that can easily be overdone of course. But anytime there is compression as there is in this photo it can help even things out. It really helps to have other photo's of your subject in various poses so you can go by what their facial shape is in those as well. It give the editer a better idea of when they have gone to far. Flickr
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Jun 23, 2012 06:51 | #12 I thought it made the face look a bit akward at first also but then realized that if you look at the edited shot by itself the face looks good. It is only when you compare it against the original that it seems distorted. I prefer the edit. Bill R
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navydoc Cream of the Crop More info | It looks like you applied a reddish tone to the image which makes her skin seem off. Image hosted by forum (602330) © navydoc [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff. Gene - My Photo Gallery ||
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Thorrulz Goldmember More info | Jun 23, 2012 10:53 | #14 Northwoods Bill wrote in post #14620074 I thought it made the face look a bit akward at first also but then realized that if you look at the edited shot by itself the face looks good. It is only when you compare it against the original that it seems distorted. I prefer the edit. I should also note you never show them the before and after either. Flickr
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