MadisonPhotography wrote in post #14620245
I recently got into a discussion with a couple high school aged kids about copyright regarding things creative and of course, music. The "kids" seem to think that its just fine to pirate music, movies and photos. "Everyone does it" seems to be the argument with these folks and of course, them living in Madison, WI doesn't do much to help this.
Interesting, they want to be Socialists and derive no gain from their work. So I asked this question....."If you really want everyone to share everything equally why do you take advance placement tests, engage in activities to further your education and support particular candidates? It won't matter in the end as everyone, from the sloth to the over achiever will all live equally"...
"on no" they replied....we only take from the rich....
I find this entire trend disturbing...hopefully it is not an epidemic...
Madison where the fight for workers rights is happening is making it worse, seriously?
Love how they want to be socialists, really wish people would learn what that word means before throwing it out there. Really think these kids want that, can guarantee no, but seems you brought your political views too far into it, isn't there a rule against that here? That old exam cliche is nowhere near relevant any time I've ever seen it used, taking two things not related and trying to fit it into an agenda...kids, parents, well almost nobody associates copying images or music with THEIR work in an office or out doing some other service like carpentry, plumbing, etc.
jimmy_beaner wrote in post #14620260
I teach a college Biology lab course, and not only have to put in disclaimers about plagiarism for text, but photographs as well. It's shocking the number that will blatantly take someone's work and reply with "it's just a picture" even after our extensive chats.
Funny in high school they teach the opposite in two of the big three (music, images, text) telling the kids they can use any images and music they want for projects but can not show any signs of plagiarism. The teachers do it all the time because it's fair use, for many college classes it is as well - many of mine did in high school and college. Only time remember it not being allowed I believe was for the Masters thesis, if I remember correctly but could be wrong - but since it could be published believe they said all original content and nothing at all "borrowed".
MadisonPhotography wrote in post #14621524
Pretty much the situation in society today...."I didn't know about it so I'm not wrong"...but I bet the parents did...nothing like a gold old fashioned face to face meeting...who are the parents anyway?
Parents know copyright? Since when? They grew up in an age that they almost had to buy the record, yes record, or cassette but still found a way to make copies all the time by taping it off the radio, had a dual recorder and borrowed from their friends, went to the library and made copies instead of buying multiple copies of the paper or book - nothing has changed except the technology has made it much easier for them to do it.
I run into media directors and SID's all the time that don't know copyrights, there's PLENTY of photographers on here who don't know the first thing about copyright laws, so thinking a parent who works in a cubicle or digging a ditch will know copyright law is assuming a lot!
Codda wrote in post #14621962
It's the basis for the entire OWS mentality...
If you believe that's what it's about I have some land for sale in Florida, prime real estate!
Photography is heading the way of music, sorry to the old timers but things are changing. Complaining about it does nothing and definitely not going to change a thing. The "trend" (if you can call something that has been evolving for 50+ years a trend) will continue to grow and get worse as technology progresses. Seen it in music first hand and you see it in photography now a few years behind. Sure there will always be bands that make money, just like always be photographers who do as well, but the old way just isn't the same anymore and not going to go back!