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How about the 400mm f5.6L with the 5DIII

 
KarlGB77
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Jun 23, 2012 09:33 |  #1

I have a 70-200 2.8II
I was looking at the 2XIII extender but there are too many negative comments about the results.
Now that I have the Mark III with the great AF system for AI Servo, I would love to hear comments about what you think of this lens on the Mark III.

http://www.amazon.com …?ie=UTF8&showVi​ewpoints=1 (external link)

The AF points and what would be useable, using AI Servo and the plusses and minuses etc.

Care to share?

Thank you very much.

Karl


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Jun 23, 2012 10:29 |  #2

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Jun 23, 2012 10:51 |  #3

i've been looking at picking that lens up. Why don't you do it and report back on how you like it. I can't imagine why it wouldn't be a great lens on the 5d3.




  
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Jun 23, 2012 11:18 as a reply to  @ rick_reno's post |  #4

The 400mm f/5.6L is a great fast focusing lens that provides top-notch image quality even when shot wide open.

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I really wish that it had IS capability. The lack of IS capability is one reason that I use my 300mm f/4L IS lens far more often that I use the 400mm f/5.6L. The 300mm f/4L IS also has a closer MFT which is quite handy. Adding a 1.4x TC makes the 300mm f/4 IS into a 420mm f/5.6 lens with IS and is a respectable close focusing lens. The AF and IQ of the 300mm + 1.4x TC are not "quite" as efficient as the bare 400mm f/5.6L lens but, the 300mm f/4L IS lens combined with the 1.4x TC is, IMO, a bit more versatile.

BTW: I already had the 1.4x TC when I purchased the 300mm f/4L IS lens; so that was not an added expense...

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Jun 23, 2012 12:17 |  #5

So the lack of IS could be an issue eh?


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Jun 23, 2012 15:29 |  #6

The obvious answer is to crank up the shutter speed.. the downside would be if you need a slower shutter speed intentionally.


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Jun 23, 2012 15:47 |  #7

KarlGB77 wrote in post #14621060 (external link)
So the lack of IS could be an issue eh?

Not for me, I turn it off on my 300 and 70-200 2.8.




  
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Jun 23, 2012 17:22 |  #8

I was very close to pulling the trigger on that lens. But, I have to say I've been having a blast with the 2xIII and my 70-200 II. Much faster AF than I would have expected based on some of the reviews I've read and the IQ is very good. Takes up only a little room in my bag. At this point, I'm not missing a dedicated 400 at all.


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Jun 23, 2012 17:27 |  #9

Fodowsky wrote in post #14621980 (external link)
I was very close to pulling the trigger on that lens. But, I have to say I've been having a blast with the 2xIII and my 70-200 II. Much faster AF than I would have expected based on some of the reviews I've read and the IQ is very good. Takes up only a little room in my bag. At this point, I'm not missing a dedicated 400 at all.

I'd love to try the f/2.8L IS ii combined with the 1.4x TC iii but, I am afraid to do it. I am happy with mylenses now and don't want to start another buying spree.


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Jun 23, 2012 17:31 |  #10

RPCrowe wrote in post #14621994 (external link)
I'd love to try the f/2.8L IS ii combined with the 1.4x TC iii but, I am afraid to do it. I am happy with mylenses now and don't want to start another buying spree.

I went back and forth for a long time. Decided to try it but purchased from a place where I could return it if I wasn't satisfied. Glad I did. For my use, the extender is working well. Of course, that could change!! :)


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Jun 23, 2012 23:29 |  #11

Do you think the 1.4X III would be sharper with the 70-200 2.8 II than the 2X III?

Anyone using their 5D3 for wildlife and birds in flight?

Karl


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Jun 24, 2012 02:28 |  #12

I have the 70-200 and the 2x mark III.
I barely see any IQ drop when using that combo. I'm not saying there isn't one, but its not that noticeable unless you peeping pixels all day long.
And its much cheaper and easier to carry than bringing both the 70-200 and 400 with you.
I don't have the 1.4x yet, but I heard that the mark III also has a very minor change in IQ.


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Jun 24, 2012 06:09 as a reply to  @ Eyal's post |  #13

The 400 f/5.6 is a great lens regardless of camera. I've used it on a 40d, 7d, 1d III and 5d and never had any issues.


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Jun 24, 2012 08:40 |  #14

palmor wrote in post #14623841 (external link)
The 400 f/5.6 is a great lens regardless of camera. I've used it on a 40d, 7d, 1d III and 5d and never had any issues.

I just meant in the context if using the AF in AI servo on the 5DIII.
For instance, the usable cross type points at various aperatures and what that may mean when shooting birds in flight.
Will it not work as well as the 2.8? Will it not track as well?
Would you guys say that sunrise and sunset shooting are not an option due to the 5.6 and no IS?

The lens sounds great for IQ but at good light only??
Maybe the 2X III would be better with the 70 -200 2.8 II.

Thanks

Karl


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Jun 24, 2012 14:39 |  #15

KarlGB77 wrote in post #14624176 (external link)
I just meant in the context if using the AF in AI servo on the 5DIII.
For instance, the usable cross type points at various aperatures and what that may mean when shooting birds in flight.
Will it not work as well as the 2.8? Will it not track as well?
Would you guys say that sunrise and sunset shooting are not an option due to the 5.6 and no IS?

The lens sounds great for IQ but at good light only??
Maybe the 2X III would be better with the 70 -200 2.8 II.

Thanks

Karl

The AF in the 5d III is better then my 7d or 1d III so there isn't anything that hinders the 5d vs any other camera.

I think the question is more generic then 5d III specific. The 400 f/5.6 will most likely track and AF better then the 70-200 with a 2x TC. If you need 400mm then both options are going to be @f/5.6 so there is no light advantage between the two. The only advantage of the 70-200 is if you want to shoot at 200mm. I don't find a lack of IS an issue (I'd either use a mono/tripod or bump the ISO up as needed).

Not sure if that helps, it is kind of a personal preference in what you want.


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