1DX owners unite! Discuss and post photos!

Brenden John Photography wrote in post #14868577
This is such a shame! You are completely incorrect!

Don't any of you guys pay attention to what your doing? Don't any of you learn how to use your camera to the fullest, if not then why on Earth did you pay $7k on a camera? I only shoot in RAW. I have been shooting RAW from the start. I do many many events and on-set movie photography. Picture Styles are such a blessing for people that are very very busy. The whole point of RAW is that you can change the exposure, saturation, contrast, sharpness, etc... If picture styles where not applied to RAW files, then it would be deactivated on the camera. But that is not the case. Picture styles are for an effective work flow. Anytime you upload your RAW files to Lightroom, Photoshop, or DPP, the picture styles are applied and showing up, you can change which profile, say standard, portrait, landscape, monochrome, etc... Apparently so many people never pay attention to this, and don't realize that it in FACT does carry over with the RAW file, the entire point of a RAW file. I upload all my photos from an event, I make any necessary adjustments I need, but they are still in the picture style I created to my liking so that I don't have much work to do. It's a blessing cause it cuts down on so much post work.

Perhaps it was my mistake for joining this thread. I have read and read over the years statements like this by so many persons, but they have always been wrong and the ones reading it don't know this and are learning the wrong info. It's very frustrating just how many posts and reviews online in photography are done wrong, saying incorrect things, or even comparing things that are completely not related.

The best way to test this is to shoot a RAW file in monochrome, upload it to Photoshop or Lightroom or DPP, you will see that it shows up in b/w, that is a picture style carried over.

I just tried your challenge and you're so wrong. Even the monochrome was turned to color in Lightroom. I took photos with every picture style and in Lightroom they all look exactly the same.

Brenden John Photography wrote in post #14868660
Your incorrect... the affect is applied, despite being able to change it later. If your using PS you have set PS to a pre-set Adobe profile. But for people to say picture styles are not applied are wrong.

I disagree. As long as I've been shooting I have not seen picture styles affect the RAWs. When you adjust picture styles in camera you're seeing the embedded jpeg adjustment in camera. If you understand what a RAW file is, it is basically a digital negative and is untouched with no processing. Let's agree to disagree, shall we?

David Arbogast wrote in post #14868673
I just tried your challenge and you're so wrong. Even the monochrome was turned to color in Lightroom. I took photos with every picture style and in Lightroom they all look exactly the same.

You have it set to show the Adobe profile, despite what picture style you choose. If you let it show the camera settings, you'll see the applied picture style.

SQZ wrote in post #14867208
How are you guys converting your RAW files to satisfy the size requirements for this thread?

I'd like to post some of my 1DX pics, but they look like hell after I downsize them, change resolution and convert to JPEG.

The shots are razor sharp to begin with, but after i convert in DPP or CS5 they just look bad.

Suggestions???

I was having the same problem when I loaded my pic files directly to POTN after downsizing them in CS5/6. I was only applying capture sharpening and a final sharpen for printing...then I downsized for the web without sharpening again. Wrong!

I found these two procedures which have made a huge difference. First, downsizing. Apparently, and I'm taking their word for it here, it's better to downsize in stages rather than all at once. So in Image, Image size, Pixel dimensions, starting with 5600+ pixels on the long edge reduce to 2048 pixels with method set on "Bicubic(best for smooth gradients)" ....don't ask me why, I'm just passing it on....then again to 1024 pixels.
I made an Action for that so I only have to press F3 and it does it automatically for horizontal format pics.

Now comes the best bit....go to Filter, sharpen, smart sharpen, advanced and click the highlights tab...set fade at 100% and tonal width at 80%, radius 1 pixel. Then click the shadows tab and set fade at 100% and tonal width at 40%, radius 1 pixel.

(Again, I can't tell you why, but someone went to a lot of trouble experimenting with this and it works for me.)

Finally click the sharpen tab and set the amount at around 300% and the radius around 0.3 pixels. You may need to vary thyis...sometimes it's a bit vicious and sometimes its not strong enough.

Then I just go File, Save for web, and it converts to jpg and does the rest, though you may have to bring the file size down to 150K for POTN. You won't have to worry about this if you are using a separate host I believe.

Well I hope that was worth while...it works for me!

jdizzle wrote in post #14868678
I disagree. As long as I've been shooting I have not seen picture styles affect the RAWs. When you adjust picture styles in camera you're seeing the embedded jpeg adjustment in camera. If you understand what a RAW file is, it is basically a digital negative and is untouched with no processing. Let's agree to disagree, shall we?

When offloaded, DPP will apply the picture style that was set in camera, obviously it can be changed, but the picture style info is something that is there in the exif data

elrey2375 wrote in post #14869034
When offloaded, DPP will apply the picture style that was set in camera, obviously it can be changed, but the picture style info is something that is there in the exif data

Thank you!

It will also show it in PS and Lightroom when you have it set to camera settings. Picture Styles is a brilliant feature of the camera and saves a ton of time.

Brenden John Photography wrote in post #14869079
Thank you!

It will also show it in PS and Lightroom when you have it set to camera settings. Picture Styles is a brilliant feature of the camera and saves a ton of time.

Exactly, it's not permanent and it only shows if you have it set that way on Import, but the info is there, it hasn't been tossed.

elrey2375 wrote in post #14869034
When offloaded, DPP will apply the picture style that was set in camera, obviously it can be changed, but the picture style info is something that is there in the exif data

I haven't used DPP in ages but, why would it save time?

Brenden John Photography wrote in post #14869079
Thank you!

It will also show it in PS and Lightroom when you have it set to camera settings. Picture Styles is a brilliant feature of the camera and saves a ton of time.

Why would you use a picture style from your camera? If you know how to edit your images, then you don't need it, right? I only use the neutral style to get an accurate histogram. That's it.

Brenden John Photography wrote in post #14868577
This is such a shame! You are completely incorrect!

Don't any of you guys pay attention to what your doing? Don't any of you learn how to use your camera to the fullest, if not then why on Earth did you pay $7k on a camera? I only shoot in RAW. I have been shooting RAW from the start. I do many many events and on-set movie photography. Picture Styles are such a blessing for people that are very very busy. The whole point of RAW is that you can change the exposure, saturation, contrast, sharpness, etc... If picture styles where not applied to RAW files, then it would be deactivated on the camera. But that is not the case. Picture styles are for an effective work flow. Anytime you upload your RAW files to Lightroom, Photoshop, or DPP, the picture styles are applied and showing up, you can change which profile, say standard, portrait, landscape, monochrome, etc... Apparently so many people never pay attention to this, and don't realize that it in FACT does carry over with the RAW file, the entire point of a RAW file. I upload all my photos from an event, I make any necessary adjustments I need, but they are still in the picture style I created to my liking so that I don't have much work to do. It's a blessing cause it cuts down on so much post work.

Perhaps it was my mistake for joining this thread. I have read and read over the years statements like this by so many persons, but they have always been wrong and the ones reading it don't know this and are learning the wrong info. It's very frustrating just how many posts and reviews online in photography are done wrong, saying incorrect things, or even comparing things that are completely not related.

The best way to test this is to shoot a RAW file in monochrome, upload it to Photoshop or Lightroom or DPP, you will see that it shows up in b/w, that is a picture style carried over.

hmm... when shooting mono with raw format, once you bring it into your preferred raw editor, it is in color.

and as for raw, the file stays the same. your adjustments are saved as a '.xmp' file so your raw does not change. however, if you apply styles to a jpg, thats a different story.

anyhow, thats what i learned...

jdizzle wrote in post #14869363
Why would you use a picture style from your camera? If you know how to edit your images, then you don't need it, right? I only use the neutral style to get an accurate histogram. That's it.

I think what he's saying is that if you know how you want the photos edited, the preset will get them close and then all you have to do is tweak and hopefully batch edit the rest instead of establishing the whole look from the get go. At least that's what I understood. People like to say RAW is just like a digital negative, but that's not entirely true and it's tough to make that kind of comparison across the great digital divide. Yes, the image is much more malleable than a JPEG, but the picture set is most definitely stored in the EXIF data, ask anyone. Now, how you have the import set up depends on if it applies the picture set. Some programs do it, others don't and some don't give you the option. I know this to be true because I can shoot a RAW file, import it into LR and before I've touched anything, the sharpening slider has already been moved, etc., because the picture set has been applied upon import. Now, it's easy enough to change it and not have it affect the photo like it would if it were a JPEG, but it's definitely there and definitely been applied.

First time using the 1D-X. Set of 5 frames, taken in Haifa, Israel.
1DX+EF 400 F/5.6L 1/1250; f/5.6; AF-SERVO Case6; 12fps; raw and croped.

I got mine last night after a week's wait and by the time the battery charged, it was dark outside so I Installed the bundled software on the mac (snow leopard) but imagebrowser doesn't work - it just hangs at the splash screen. I don't use it a lot but it's useful for comparison work when I adjust the MA.

Has anyone else found this and is there a work-around (I'm not installing windoze before you suggest it )

Cheers,

Andy

Adphoto wrote in post #14869727
I got mine last night after a week's wait and by the time the battery charged, it was dark outside so I Installed the bundled software on the mac (snow leopard) but imagebrowser doesn't work - it just hangs at the splash screen. I don't use it a lot but it's useful for comparison work when I adjust the MA.

Has anyone else found this and is there a work-around (I'm not installing windoze before you suggest it )

Cheers,

Andy

Cheers Andy, thats Great you ordered yours 1 week ago and presto

I wish we can get the same Customer service here in Canada. I ordered mine ages ago and still No camera

Frank

pilot6787 wrote in post #14869669
First time using the 1D-X. Set of 5 frames, taken in Haifa, Israel.
1DX+EF 400 F/5.6L 1/1250; f/5.6; AF-SERVO Case6; 12fps; raw and croped.

Love the golden color of the surf/water!

Oh, and nice to have some PHOTOS again in this thread!!