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LR4: Adobe Classroom in a Book or Scott Kelby's book?

 
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Jun 26, 2012 13:42 |  #1

I know both books have recently been released but was wondering if anyone has checked out either of them. I already took a basic LR4 course on Lynda.com but would like to have a book for reference.

Feedback, anyone?


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Jun 26, 2012 13:46 |  #2
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or ... Linda.com - there are several really good courses on LR4 and CS5 and if you ambitious you can get unlimited access for $25 a month without examples or $37 a month with examples. That's how I learned LR4.




  
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Jun 26, 2012 13:49 |  #3

I prefer Kelby...

His humor gets a little silly at times but IMO, his approach to LR is more "real world" than that of Adobe's technical writers.


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Jun 26, 2012 13:57 |  #4

I definitely recommend Kelby for a quick and easy to follow hands-on "primer".

For more technical "depth" Martin Evening is very good.

I've never looked at the "Adobe Classroom" offering so can't comment!


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Jun 26, 2012 16:41 |  #5

Thanks for the feedback. I'll go with Kelby's book.


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Jun 26, 2012 16:51 |  #6

I vote for none of them, teach yourself by reading the included manual if necessary. But to be honest there is not a huge amount of new stuff to learn, what's new and updated can be mastered within an hour or two.

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Jun 26, 2012 17:00 |  #7

Magnus3D wrote in post #14635898 (external link)
I vote for none of them, teach yourself by reading the included manual if necessary. But to be honest there is not a huge amount of new stuff to learn, what's new and updated can be mastered within an hour or two.

/ Magnus

I should've mentioned LR4 is the first version of Lightroom I've ever used so it's new to me.


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Jun 26, 2012 17:34 |  #8

AvailableLight wrote in post #14635950 (external link)
I should've mentioned LR4 is the first version of Lightroom I've ever used so it's new to me.

Then I'd say Kelby definitely.

A third great LR "primer" is the "Missing FAQ" by Victoria Bampton, another expert acknowledged/recognize​d by Adobe. She runs the LightroomQueen site/forum.

But, as was mentioned above, the Lightroom Help is the "official" Users Guide/manual and is a very valuable reference. It is well organized, and it is also available as a pdf download:

http://livedocs.adobe.​com/en_US/Lightroom/1.​0/help.pdf (external link)

I have the pdf as a desktop icon for quick access whether LR is running or not. And, you can update the pdf whenever you want the latest.

Sometimes the pdf is actually better than the "regular" F1/Help function because just going to Help may open an online "page" which can contain a lot of useful things but also maybe some "clutter". The pdf is a "fixed" book format.

Either way, though, Help is definitely helpful!


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Jun 26, 2012 19:00 |  #9

tonylong wrote in post #14636111 (external link)
Then I'd say Kelby definitely.

A third great LR "primer" is the "Missing FAQ" by Victoria Bampton, another expert acknowledged/recognize​d by Adobe. She runs the LightroomQueen site/forum.

But, as was mentioned above, the Lightroom Help is the "official" Users Guide/manual and is a very valuable reference. It is well organized, and it is also available as a pdf download:

http://livedocs.adobe.​com/en_US/Lightroom/1.​0/help.pdf (external link)

I have the pdf as a desktop icon for quick access whether LR is running or not. And, you can update the pdf whenever you want the latest.

Sometimes the pdf is actually better than the "regular" F1/Help function because just going to Help may open an online "page" which can contain a lot of useful things but also maybe some "clutter". The pdf is a "fixed" book format.

Either way, though, Help is definitely helpful!

Funny you mention that as I had added Bampton's FAQ book to my Amazon Wish List before I started this thread. I'll get that in a couple of months.

Good to know about the Help file. Thanks.


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Jun 27, 2012 10:10 |  #10

Get Martin Evening's book. Scott Kelby is a PITA.


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Jun 27, 2012 13:12 |  #11

Razeus wrote in post #14639217 (external link)
Get Martin Evening's book. Scott Kelby is a PITA.

Kelby seems to create a lot of polarizing opinions, LOL. I already ordered Kelby's book and it'll be in by Friday. I'll probably get Evening's book a few months down the road when I feel more at home with LR4.


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Jun 28, 2012 15:56 |  #12

I am taking a $25 workshop @ Adorama today on Lightroom 4 which will also give me $25 gift certificate to buy whatever I want in the store. I am also planning on purchasing Kelby's book.


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Jun 28, 2012 17:02 |  #13

Why not go to a book store an look at them both side by side and see which one that you prefer.


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Jun 28, 2012 18:45 |  #14

Okay so you are a Lightroom virgin, give it some time and you will figure it out. It's not exactly rocketscience to postadjust a bunch of RAW files in it. The gray matter inside the human skull works surprisingly well in figuring stuff out. :)

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Jun 28, 2012 18:53 |  #15

The biggest benefit of the Kelby book (IMO) comes from getting your brain wrapped around the organizational aspects.

They do tend to run towards rocket surgery and brain science simply because there are 1001 ways to accomplish the same thing. You'll save yourself a lot of misery, repetition and grief if you hit the ground with a plan and stick to it.


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