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Urgent: How to bipass live view crop with raw photo with Canon 5D III

 
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Jun 27, 2012 23:57 |  #1

I own a Canon 5D III.

I took a portrait with it in live view in raw format.

When viewing the image back on my camera, I see the full resolution of the photo in the original dimensions, with faint 16:9 crop bars overlaid on top of the image. The information is clearly there.

When I import the raw photo into photoshop, the pixels above the crop bars that I see on the back of my camera when previewing are literally cropped out.

Is there anyway I can fix this when importing the raw photo into photoshop? The information is clearly there, as it is displayed within my camera.




  
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Jun 27, 2012 23:58 |  #2

http://i.imgur.com/gTU​vU.jpg (external link)

What I see on the back of my camera viewfinder. When I import the raw file into photoshop, everything above and below the crop lines are already cropped.




  
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Jun 28, 2012 00:21 |  #3

I don't own a 5D3. Have you manually looked at the memory card to see if perhaps there are more than one version of that file on the card?

Also, have you tried using DPP? Perhaps it can "undo" this crop?

I just find it strange that a RAW file from a photo shot in LV mode is auto-cropped...surely this must be magic?


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Jun 28, 2012 00:30 as a reply to  @ cputeq007's post |  #4

Aspect ratio has been set to 16x9 in camera...Set back to 3x2.


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Jun 28, 2012 00:33 |  #5

To save the photo you already have, go into DPP, pull up the "Trim Angle" tool and press "Clear".


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Jun 28, 2012 00:41 |  #6

rrblint, I can't thank you enough.

You may have just saved me a client. I'm not sure if he would have accepted an image with his hair cropped.

Seriously, thank you so much.




  
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Jun 28, 2012 00:44 |  #7

HansSteinert wrote in post #14642586 (external link)
rrblint, I can't thank you enough.

You may have just saved me a client. I'm not sure if he would have accepted an image with his hair cropped.

Seriously, thank you so much.

My pleasure!...Hope he enjoys your photos.:)


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Jun 28, 2012 00:46 |  #8

Now, is there a way to edit in camera raw after undoing the trim angle?




  
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Jun 28, 2012 00:53 |  #9

HansSteinert wrote in post #14642606 (external link)
Now, is there a way to edit in camera raw after undoing the trim angle?

Hans, I honestly don't know the answer to that one...Maybe someone else does.

I think I would just continue editing in DPP or PS.


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Jun 28, 2012 01:00 |  #10

I can continue editing in DPP, but the raw tools are limited compared to the raw plugin with photoshop. When I resave it as a CR2 and import to photoshop, it still keeps the crop.

However, I can use the limited tools in DPP's raw interface to get something good, convert to a tiff, and do the finishing touches on that.

This will do for now, I can make it look great. Intriguing that saving the CR2 after erasing the crop... and the CR2 is still stubborn when imported to photoshop.




  
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Jun 28, 2012 01:00 as a reply to  @ rrblint's post |  #11

Are you simply pressing the button in the middle of the live view switch or are you flicking it to the left to go into video mode? If you're flicking to the left and entering video mode, and press the shutter, you'll get those bars.


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Jun 28, 2012 01:05 |  #12

HansSteinert wrote in post #14642656 (external link)
I can continue editing in DPP, but the raw tools are limited compared to the raw plugin with photoshop. When I resave it as a CR2 and import to photoshop, it still keeps the crop.

However, I can use the limited tools in DPP's raw interface to get something good, convert to a tiff, and do the finishing touches on that.

This will do for now, I can make it look great. Intriguing that saving the CR2 after erasing the crop... and the CR2 is still stubborn when imported to photoshop.

Did you press "OK" after pressing "Clear" in the Trim Angle tool?


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Jun 28, 2012 01:43 |  #13

Krez wrote in post #14642657 (external link)
Are you simply pressing the button in the middle of the live view switch or are you flicking it to the left to go into video mode? If you're flicking to the left and entering video mode, and press the shutter, you'll get those bars.

I was in live view mode, flicked to the left.




  
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Jun 28, 2012 01:43 |  #14

rrblint wrote in post #14642670 (external link)
Did you press "OK" after pressing "Clear" in the Trim Angle tool?

Yes.

It's now just for curiosity's sake. I got my finished image. Thank you.




  
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May 15, 2013 14:21 as a reply to  @ HansSteinert's post |  #15

It looks like on the 5Dmiii, the embedded cropping information behaves differently if you are shooting stills in "video" mode (when the Live View is activated by rotating the Live View switch to the left, towards the camera icon) verses shooting stills in plain-old Live View mode (when Live View switch is to the right and Live View is activated by pressing the "start/stop" switch).

When in Video Live View mode (Live View switch to the left), if you shoot jpeg only (no duplicate RAW file), the jpeg stills are cropped to the video dimensions of 16x9, and this is not removable in DPP or anywhere else. If you shoot RAW, the RAW files will be 3:2 and will have a removable 16:9 crop overlay. In Video Live View, the Aspect ratio menu item (on SHOOT4: LV func.) does not even show up, and using the Add Cropping Information function (on C.Fn3: Others) has no effect: you are just constrained to 16:9 cropping.

When in the plain-old Live View mode (by pressing the "start/stop" switch when the Live View switch is to the right) you can add cropping info which is removeable in DPP from both the RAW and jpeg files.

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