Another Filter Question (Hoya 72mm Moose Peterson Warming Circular Polarizer Filter)

I will be on a trip to Europe soon and looking to get a filter as I will be doing a lot of nature shots (Alps, lakes, panorama city, and typical tourist stuff). I am researching filters at this time. I am on a BUDGET! and yes, I've read through at least 30-40 threads about filters and understand that budget does not equal quality.
At this time I am reviewing the Hoya 72mm polarizing "warming" filter which seems to have stellar reviews on many websites. What do you guys think and what are your suggestions/experience​s with filters in the $50-70 range?

Thanks for your help!


Hoya 72mm Moose Peterson Warming Circular Polarizer Filter

http://www.amazon.com …hoya+72mm+warm+​polarizing

and

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_Moose_Warm_Cir​cular.html

Out of curiosity, why are you looking to buy a warming CPL, when you can reproduce the "warming" effect during PP? Why not buy a regular CPL that will be a better value at the price range $60, than a $60 warming CPL?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't warming filters mostly film carry-overs as well?

kMatt wrote in post #14650957
Out of curiosity, why are you looking to buy a warming CPL, when you can reproduce the "warming" effect during PP? Why not buy a regular CPL that will be a better value at the price range $60, than a $60 warming CPL?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't warming filters mostly film carry-overs as well?

I figured that reproducing something digitally is not as good as the original photo. But thats based on reviews in the links for this filter.

Do you think that this additional feature hinder the IQ?

kMatt wrote in post #14650957
Out of curiosity, why are you looking to buy a warming CPL, when you can reproduce the "warming" effect during PP? Why not buy a regular CPL that will be a better value at the price range $60, than a $60 warming CPL?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't warming filters mostly film carry-overs as well?

It gets rid of reflections and also gets rid of the blue cast that most regular polarizers create. I'm looking to get one soon for portraits to replicate a mild nd filter for my 70-200 f4 while increasing contrast at the same time. Figured it might give a unique look to my pictures as well.

Stir Fry A Lot wrote in post #14651120
It gets rid of reflections and also gets rid of the blue cast that most regular polarizers create. I'm looking to get one soon for portraits to replicate a mild nd filter for my 70-200 f4 while increasing contrast at the same time. Figured it might give a unique look to my pictures as well.

I guess I'm lucky and haven't noticed that blue cast with my Marumi. Regular CPLs get rid of reflections, increase contrast, and most CPLs block about 1-2 stops of light. So I really don't get what is so special about "warming" CPLs (I apologize in advance if that came off as aggressive). PP can cause the warming effect and get rid of the blue cast...

BoomerE30 wrote in post #14650976
I figured that reproducing something digitally is not as good as the original photo. But thats based on reviews in the links for this filter.

Do you think that this additional feature hinder the IQ?

As long as you don't overdo it in post you should get a similar result. I personally have never even heard about Hoya's warmer until this post, so I can't help you with the IQ part, although Hoya is known for making top notch filters.

I found a thread on a different forum while looking up reviews for the Hoya warmer and it has some talk about the PP. http://www.naturescape​s.net …viewtopic.php?f​=1&t=81945

I have a Marumi as well and haven't gotten the color cast. I think some others run cooler however. I think the warming ones are more for fall seasons and sunsets when you would really want to emphasize the warmth.

As was stated, if you have Photoshop, photo filters are one of the options from which you can choose. I have a Hoya Moose CPL but don't use it much. I bought it for my G12 before I had done any research.

First, I assume you are shooting digital and not film....

If you use Auto White Balance or set a Custom White Balance, the warming filter's effect is cancelled out. If you are getting too cool images now, you'll still get cool images even with the filter. (Bedt to have a calibrated computer monitor to view and evaluate your images, though.)

Changing color temp such a small amount - i.e. the amount of an 81A warming filter - in post processing will do no harm. There is no advantage to applying it at the time of capture, with digital.

If you wish, you could use Warm Cards or similar and set a Custom White Balance that is warmer than usual, at the time of capture. Using a target for the Custom WB that's lightly blue will "fool" the camera into compensating the opposite direction... i.e. a warmer image.

Back in the days of film... we used UV, 81A, 81B, 81C filters all the time. Combining an 81A with a polarizer made a lot of sense, to avoid stacking filters.

Today shooting digital I don't bother carrying or using warming filters or any other type of color correction/conversion filters. It's easy enough to set a Custom WB, or use Warm Cards if I want to warm the image a little, and/or to correct in post.

I can't tell from the description if those Moose filters are multi-coated or not....

This Hoya is multi-coated: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …rcular_Polarize​r_HMC.html
(Hoya makes some other multi-coated CPL filters, including their "HD", "Pro 1" and "EVO")

Or this B+W: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …777-REG/B_W_66044843.html
(Note: B+W also offers a more expensive Kaesemann CPL.)

Or this Marumi: http://www.amazon.com …rds=marumi+72mm​+polarizer
(Note: this is a "slim" filter... you may or may not need a slim, depends upon the lens it's used upon... slim filters are usually a little more expensive than standard filters, and some of them don't have front threads so you need a special cap for them.)

There are other good quality, multi-coated circular polarizers by Tiffen, Kenko, Zeiss, Rodenstock, Heliopan, Nikon

From the man himself, explaining why it's a film era hangover:

http://www.moosepeters​on.com/techtips/polari​zer.html

Thanks for all the advice guys. Based on all my reading, seems like the best "bang for the buck" would be the


Marumi 72mm 72 Super DHG MC CPL PL.D Slim Thin Filter Japan


http://www.lenstip.com …_Results_and_su​mmary.html
this is a good link that compares filters.


melcat,

I briefly read through the article and Moose seems to talk about his filter and how he uses it and overall the usefulness of CPLs. Correct me if im wrong...