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Jun 30, 2012 15:51 |  #31

My big problem with importing into lightroom then deleting, is that it is very hard to quickly go through pictures. It takes time to load each picture, then when you press delete, you wait half a second before the confirm button comes up, then deleting takes half a second. With Fast Picture Viewer, it takes literally a quarter of a second for the entire process.

I can delete bad pictures in a tenth of the time from the card itself when compared to Lightroom.


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Jun 30, 2012 16:24 |  #32

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... It allows for RAW files to basically be viewed as easily as JPEGS. ...

That is because you ARE looking at a JPG file. Raw files have a large and a small JPG encapsulated within in the raw file. The program that you are using is able to extract the JPG, but since it is not a raw converter, it is not able to create an image from the raw data.


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Jun 30, 2012 16:36 |  #33

Raylon wrote in post #14653633 (external link)
My big problem with importing into lightroom then deleting, is that it is very hard to quickly go through pictures. It takes time to load each picture, then when you press delete, you wait half a second before the confirm button comes up, then deleting takes half a second. With Fast Picture Viewer, it takes literally a quarter of a second for the entire process.

I can delete bad pictures in a tenth of the time from the card itself when compared to Lightroom.

No it doesn't. You click a reject flag on each photo you want to eliminate, then just go to Photo/Delete rejected photos/ then you have the choice to delete from hard disk when the window comes up. You are done for one or 100.


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Jun 30, 2012 17:14 |  #34

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Tsmith, sure they are designed to be removed and reinserted and yes there have been about a 1/2 dozen cases reported in the last 4-6 months of pin damage.

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Jun 30, 2012 17:22 |  #35

Bill Boehme wrote in post #14653716 (external link)
That is because you ARE looking at a JPG file. Raw files have a large and a small JPG encapsulated within in the raw file. The program that you are using is able to extract the JPG, but since it is not a raw converter, it is not able to create an image from the raw data.

Gotcha. Still the same principal applies, I simply and easily fly through all the pictures.

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No it doesn't. You click a reject flag on each photo you want to eliminate, then just go to Photo/Delete rejected photos/ then you have the choice to delete from hard disk when the window comes up. You are done for one or 100.

Yes it does. The fact is it still takes several seconds for the file to become clear enough to tell if the photo is in focus and good enough to keep. With the method I use, it's instant. It's not the deleting that takes forever, it's the loading times.


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Jun 30, 2012 17:45 |  #36

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Gotcha. Still the same principal applies, I simply and easily fly through all the pictures.

Yes it does. The fact is it still takes several seconds for the file to become clear enough to tell if the photo is in focus and good enough to keep. With the method I use, it's instant. It's not the deleting that takes forever, it's the loading times.

Different strokes. I prefer making the more critical decisions from the RAW file. If your LR preferences file is clean, than the time to render is minimal. I also use larger thumbs for quick previewing so I don't have to use Loupe view for every image. On my 22" monitor, I can use a thumbnail size that allows 8 images at a time and get a good idea of focus and exposure. I can quickly delete obvious mistakes and focus on the marginal ones.


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Aug 02, 2012 23:56 |  #37

This conversation has me wondering. I have a desktop computer that has several size card readers and I have pulled the card and used the built in reader many time, however most of the time I use the USB cable that came with my camera. Which method is preferrable? I must admit though, when I first got my camera, I inadvertantly put my card in backwards and gave it just enough of a push to bend a pin. Canon repaired it under warranty.

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+1 on this. I have used card readers since the day I got my first digital camera (2002) and have removed and installed the CF cards many many times without any trouble. Damaging a card hasn't ever been on my radar. I'd never thought about it until I read the stories of bent pins on forums. It's a portable memory system, allowing for the use of multiple cards, creating an infinite amount of memory for any given camera body.

As for the OP. The card reader treats the card like an external drive or memory stick. It should show up in your list of drives: (C:, D:, E:, etc.), many of the popular editing and organizing software out there will register the cards and automatically pop up when a card is inserted. I second the recommendation of Downloader Pro from Breeze systems, it was my go to program for downloading, tagging, and organizing my photos when I still used Windows. Lightroom puts up a preview before downloading and I can take a quick look at what's on the card before I actually put the files on my computer. I rarely change anything at this point, I just click the download button and let it go, I'll look through when it's done. Both DL Pro and LR offer organization features to place the photos in folders of your choosing, for ex: Year, month, day, photo number; or Event, day, photo number; etc.

I stopped using zoom browser a long time ago, so I can't speak too well as to it's use. I would think it would work the same whether you're using a camera body or a reader though, maybe I'm wrong. I usually don't worry about culling my photos until they are downloaded and of sufficient size to judge their worth. My "workflow is a little different than yours, from your post it appears you cull while downloading. So maybe a small change in workflow for you: put the card in the reader walk away and let ZB do it's thing. Then when the download is finished, or even while it's in progress view and cull the already downloaded files.


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Aug 03, 2012 00:34 as a reply to  @ alazgr8's post |  #38

With SD cards, i prefer using the card reader( copy/paste). With CF, i use the USB cable.


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Aug 03, 2012 05:16 as a reply to  @ 1Tanker's post |  #39

I have started to put a CF card into the camera backward before. It clearly feels wrong, though, so I can't imagine then continuing to push it in until it bent a pin.


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Aug 03, 2012 05:26 |  #40

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Aug 03, 2012 09:07 |  #41

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Now that is old school! ;)


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Aug 03, 2012 21:38 |  #42

I lined it up, and pushed it in, in one movement. If you have ever put a magazine in a pistol for a fast reload, that is what I did. I have learned my lesson.

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Aug 03, 2012 21:49 |  #43

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I lined it up, and pushed it in, in one movement. If you have ever put a magazine in a pistol for a fast reload, that is what I did. I have learned my lesson.

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And you can bend the lips of the magazine if you do that wrong, too, which can cause a round to hang and get you killed. Everything has its proper way to be done.


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Aug 03, 2012 21:55 |  #44

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And you can bend the lips of the magazine if you do that wrong, too, which can cause a round to hang and get you killed. Everything has its proper way to be done.

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I'm always careful and cautious when inserting and removing the card. Being sloppy and rushed always catches up to you sooner or later..in all things. ;)


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Aug 05, 2012 03:27 |  #45

RDKirk,

You may offer me advice on photography which I will gladly accept, however, unless you are an IPSC master or grandmaster, (I am an A shooter), I'd appreciate it if you would withhold your firearms advice. I have included a link to speed reloading in case you are interested.

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And you can bend the lips of the magazine if you do that wrong, too, which can cause a round to hang and get you killed. Everything has its proper way to be done.


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